‘That lady is drunk!’ Court weighs citizen tip validity


COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — The legal authority of a shouted tip to a state trooper about an impaired driver —
"That lady is drunk!" — is before the Ohio Supreme Court in a question over constitutional
protections from illegal search-and-seizure.
At issue is the 2017 arrest of a woman in Hamilton County whose blood-alcohol levels tested at more than
twice the legal limit. Lower courts sided with the woman’s arguments that the tip, from an unidentified
man, was anonymous and didn’t give the trooper cause to investigate.
Prosecutors say the trooper was justified in stopping the woman, arguing that the Department of Homeland
Security’s directive, "If you see something, say something," applies equally to stopping
drunken drivers as it does to terrorist attacks.
State patrol Sgt. Jacques Illanz "did exactly what we want and expect police to do," Philip
Cummings, an assistant Hamilton County prosecutor, argued in an August court filing. "And indeed
his quick action may have saved lives."
Court records show that Illanz was finishing up a traffic crash report at a gas station in southwestern
Ohio on Nov. 11, 2017, when a man walked out of the station and shouted at the trooper: "Hey, you
need to stop that vehicle. That lady is drunk!"
The trooper stopped the driver, Sherry Tidwell, as she backed out of her parking space. He said he
smelled alcohol in the woman’s car, noted that her eyes were bloodshot and glassy and her speech was
slurred, according to court records. The woman denied drinking.
Tidwell had a blood-alcohol level of .213 following a test by a Hamilton County sheriff’s deputy who
arrived at the scene, according to Supreme Court filings. The legal limit in Ohio is 0.08. The tipster
left the scene and was never identified.
Tidwell was charged with driving under the influence but successfully argued to lower courts that the
stop was unconstitutional because it was based on "an anonymous, unreliable tip."
Even when the trooper did stop the woman as she backed out of her parking space, his contention that her
"blank stare" justified stopping her was misplaced, said defense attorney Tad Brittingham in a
September court filing.
"If a blank stare is indicative of intoxication, then attorneys are often presumptively intoxicated
while attending continuing legal education events statewide," Brittingham said in the filing.
"Students are presumptively intoxicated during algebra class."
He also argued that the "That lady is drunk!" tip amounts to hearsay, since the man was relying
on information told to him by the store clerk, Brittingham said.
Hamilton County appealed lower court rulings siding with Tidwell to the state Supreme Court, which
scheduled oral arguments for Tuesday. A decision isn’t expected for weeks.
Prosecutors argue that simple face-to-face contact between an unidentified citizen and an officer is
enough to elevate the tipster from an anonymous source to "a citizen informant" with a high
degree of credibility.
The state Public Defender’s Office filed a motion siding with the driver, while the Ohio Attorney
General’s Office is asking the high court to allow the tip to be used.

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