To the Editor: Were shootings caused by gun or deranged guy?
Written by V.N. Krishnan   
Wednesday, 30 January 2013 10:39
The gun violence issue seems to be labeled wrongly by those whose mother tongue is the English language.  The operative word here is the term "gun".  Clearly if we do not have any violence 'which does not originate in a "gun" and in which it has no role in it, it would be stupid, irrational, impertinent and ignorant to talk of any kind of regulations relating to "gun" or "guns". The label has to be logically something else.  Thus the Obama inter agency panel on "gun violence" must first be able to clearly establish the "fact" that the recent incidents of deaths were caused by the "gun" and not by a deranged guy.  If they cannot convincingly prove this to the law abiding gun owners and pro-gun enthusiasts they have no business recommending measures that would in any way or form suggest regulating gun ownership as long as it is protected by the Second Amendment.
For us this issue is as simple as that unlike the rest of the planet where the English language is used.  But in the interest of being objective why not turn to Israel our closest ally to see how they are dealing with this issue or to find out about many others in the world. We talk so much about leading the world and spending trillions and sacrificing thousands of lives of our soldiers to promote freedom to make a better world.
At home we constantly worry that our freedom would be usurped by the same government unless we can match our arms, with what it can muster against us, waiting to get at our freedom the moment we lose our guns. May be this could be why we want the government to be shut down.
Does this mean none of the other countries which have functioning governments - some don't use English - have no freedom for their citizens at all? I wish to be enlightened and give up anything to be objective.  
V.N. Krishnan
Bowling Green
 

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# 2013-01-30 11:01
Any gun fetishist that needs an arsenal to protect himself from a government takeover in our own country is a perfect example why we need background checks. Paranoid conspiracy nuts don't need guns. And twisting the meaning of the 2nd amendment is getting old...who is "regulating" YOUR militia?
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# 2013-01-30 17:31
Might I suggest you do your history homework. Look at Hitler, Stalin, and other wackjob dictators. They first disarmed their population and the committed crimes against their own people. What is wrong with someone owning a few guns for protection, weather it be from a bad guy or the government. As far as twisting of the 2nd amendment, would please be so kind to explain to us what the correct meaning of the 2nd amendment is. I only ask because you claim gun owners are twisting it around. So please educate us.
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# 2013-01-31 09:19
Some of our founding fathers did not believe in a standing army, they thought it was a threat to liberty and was dangerous. The first 10 amendments (bill of rights) were contributed by the Anti-federalists who were very wary of the federalists (who wrote the constitution) and how they might usurp power, so they included the 2nd amendment which was meant instead of having a standing army, citizens would band together and be the army or "militia" which was controlled by their prospective states. The 2nd ammendment states a "well regulated militia"..not any paranoid goober who fears his own government and feels the need for an arsenal is "well regulated.
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# 2013-01-31 11:34
Furthermore....you honestly compare our President with Stalin and Hitler? Exactly the kind of delusional paranoid people that don't need guns. My suspicion is that this is the reason the NRA does not want background checks..because many of them are anti-Government with ties to backyard militias and subversive groups which may disqualify them for gun ownership.
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# 2013-01-31 13:34
You clearly didn't do your own homework very well. Hitler didn't disarm his population. The Nazis came to power partly through intimidation, brandishing weapons made available through the loosening of gun-control near the end of the Weimar Republic, then had extremely permissive gun laws that allowed the purchasing even of rocket launchers. In 1938--6 years after consolidating power, they took away the arms of people they declared non-citizens, and the people that they conquered militarily. Ever wonder why it was so bloody and difficult to bring the war to an end--even the kids were armed to the teeth. That doesn't happen if guns are taken away.
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# 2013-01-31 13:58
The argument that the second ammendment means we can have our guns is BS. The ammendment was meant to retain the possibility that should the new Democracy turn into some form of a tyrannical dictatorship, our citizens could overthrow it. The problem is that back then, muskets (and maybe a cannon or two) were what our government had in their arsenal. A musket toting settler could have the arms to match the government. The problem is that, no matter how many guns you may want to have now, it does not matter if you are defending yourself from an army that has nuclear weapons. Are you saying that I should be able to build bombs in my garage, since that is the "arm" that would protect me from my government, in theory? Of course not. The constitution is a living document, and a change in times demands a change in interpretation.
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# 2013-01-30 17:42
Quoting pk:
Any gun fetishist that needs an arsenal to protect himself from a government takeover in our own country is a perfect example why we need background checks. Paranoid conspiracy nuts don't need guns. And twisting the meaning of the 2nd amendment is getting old...who is "regulating" YOUR militia?

Are you saying that the citizens of Syria ( Whom Obama is arming with REAL military 'assault weapons' )are paranoid conspiracy nuts? How is it that, according to the current administration, Bashir Assad wields such power over the citizens of Syria?
We are in fact told they are so hopelessly oppressed that the answer is to arm them against this tyrannical government. Had they been so armed in the first place, would such tyranny have taken hold?
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# 2013-01-31 10:05
You are seriously comparing the internally peaceful United States, which is subject to a constitution to a country actively engaged in a civil war where the government has been declared illegitimate by a number of prominent voices around the world?

Are you suggesting that the duly, fairly and peacefully elected leader of our country should be compared to Bashir Al Assad?

The rebels in Syria are not without weapons, were not disarmed.

In case you weren't clear on the point, the US Constitution doesn't apply in Syria.
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# 2013-01-31 13:35
Obviously the U.S. constitution doesn't apply in foreign countries. How else could our president murder U.S. citizens from 30,000 feet without due process?
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# 2013-01-31 15:26
Then why on earth are you "going there" in the name of arguing why there should be no infringement on, not the right to bear arms (which nobody is trying to take away), but the armaments one carries?
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# 2013-01-31 17:16
Christopher, what does it matter what type of armament one carries if they are a law abiding citizen? If they are NOT a law abiding citizen, what law prevents them from committing a criminal act?
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# 2013-01-31 17:19
And are the "prominent voices around the world" that you mention above, the same prominent voices that declared Saddam to have chemical weapons?
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# 2013-02-01 08:23
no, they are not. Saddam's chemical weapons were a matter of speculation, based on past behavior, and in contradiction of the last permitted investigations of UN weapons inspectors. Bashir Al Assad's violence against his own people has been documented extensively by journalists on he ground.
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# 2013-01-30 17:14
Here's some interesting FACTS:
Chicago Police Department Murder Analysis reports from 2003 to 2011 provides a statistical breakdown of the manners in which people were murdered in Chicago.
Of the 4,251 people murdered, 3,371 died from being shot, with 98 percent of the murder weapons being a handgun. Thirty-seven people were killed with a rifle (caliber of bullet not specified), and 40 were killed with a shotgun.
In 27 of the murders, the type of gun used could not be determined by the Chicago Police Department.
Contrast that with the Total American deaths in Afghanistan from 10/01-present (including non combat accidents) stands at 2,166 HALF as many deaths!
Another FACT: Chicago has THE MOST STRINGENT GUN CONTROL LAWS IN THE COUNTRY. How can this be?
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# 2013-01-31 08:31
And where and how do these inner city criminals get their guns?

Cities are not islands.

Rural Illinois has an abundance of gun fairs and, as we have been hearing from Mr. LaPierre, no regular or systematic gun checks of customers.
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# 2013-01-31 13:24
Let's say there was a national ban on standard capacity AR-15 magazines limiting them to 10 rounds. What happens to the millions of 30 round magazines already out there? What stops a psychopath from simply carrying multiple 10 round magazines (assuming they would choose to obey that law while breaking multiple others)? You have to admit Christopher that without door to door CONFISCATION, these will still be available to those bent on perpetrating such atrocities. Laws only affect the law abiding do they not?
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# 2013-01-31 15:30
So basically, you are saying, like LaPierre that since criminals out there and can get guns, we should do nothing about it. Kind of like, well, there are terrorists, so we shouldn't bother with any anti-terrorism laws...

If you have background checks for consumers at gun shows, it WILL be harder for would be criminals to obtain armaments. Not impossible, but significantly harder. Many of these mass murders would have been prevented with background checks. That all of them wouldn't be is no reason to try to prevent some of them.

You're basically going down the "I'm a survivalist and have to be prepared to fight the government when it comes to get me" line of crazy.
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# 2013-01-31 14:19
We should just ban all guns, banning drugs has made scoring weed next to impossible.
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# 2013-02-04 20:28
Brad--ask any law enforcement agency. Drugs are illegal but one could buy any drug of choice in NW Ohio with little difficulty. That will be the same way with gun control. Only the underground criminals will have buying power. Doing away with guns is NOT the answer. Buying drugs, selling and using street drugs is illegal but they are available on the black-market. Guns will be the same way.
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# 2013-01-31 14:31
I'm pretty sure that guy at Newtown couldn't have thrown 100 bullets and killed 20 Kindergartners.

It is a gun issue.
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# 2013-01-31 15:00
No, but if we're talking hypothetical situations, he could've driven his car over 20 or more on the playground.
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# 2013-01-31 18:01
Now you are being silly, Mr. Smith. For one thing, just on the logistics, some of even small children could run out of the way. Dodging 11 bullets per child being fired in a matter of seconds? Not so easy.

When children are in their classrooms, they are supposed to be in a place of safety, being taught by people who are to be focused on them and on learning, not distracted by the need for target practice. Forcing teachers to be armed--the other apparent "plan" of the gun nuts--is burdensome on teachers, very few of them go into teaching in order to use guns.
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# 2013-02-01 09:34
Who said anything about force? I thought it was being discussed as an option 'to allow'
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# 2013-02-04 20:35
CW- doors can be locked and cameras installed. I think parents and guests would consider being checked in. I don't feel teachers should have to be armed. Grandparents and people picking up students could be arranged at the begging of the school year. Teachers are for learning not target practice.
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# 2013-01-31 15:00
Criminals will always break the law. It doesn't take a "gun" to kill anyone if someone is a criminal or mentally unbalanced. Weaponry has been an evolving process - from throwing rocks to wielding swords to throwing bigger rocks (trebuchet) to spears, arrows, etc. If a person wants to kill, then he/she will find a way. Remember Ted Kazinski? (I know my spelling isn't right.) He never used a "gun" at all.
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# 2013-01-31 15:31
But, how fast and how many they can kill is a matter of the weapons.
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# 2013-01-31 20:34
What then is the appropriate number of rounds one should have in a magazine. The proper amount to lessen the potential number that could be killed?
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# 2013-01-31 15:30
No one is going to ban any weapons. We are going to make access more difficult. It will not stop the truly criminal element in all cases. It WILL bend the statistical curve away from potentially higher crime rates and kill rates. That is all. Now go hunting.
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# 2013-01-31 17:38
Seriously Brian? No one is talking banning any weapons? Have you heard anything Diane Feinstein said? Andrew Coumo said "confiscation is an option" Only after the backlash from that statement became a bit too uncomfortable for him did he walk it back & qualify it by saying "confiscation only from the mentally ill who are considered dangerous"
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# 2013-01-31 17:48
Brian, are you aware that Adam Lanza attempted to purchase a rifle the week before he murdered those children? He didn't want to wait the 14 days required so he was DENIED. Had Diane Feinstein's 'assault weapon ban' been in effect it would've had no impact on his mothers legally owned guns.
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# 2013-02-01 19:09
Feinstein is a quack. No one SERIOUS is going to confiscate weapons. Stop being so paranoid. Are you in a militia? Stockpiling? No? Move along, then.
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# 2013-01-31 22:53
Let's just tell it like it is. The wacko conservatives that like guns are usually the uneducated who are afraid of goverment takeovers, etc. They refuse to acknowledge the thousands of gun deaths each year due directly to guns being so easy to get. they further refuse to acknowledge that assualt rifles have absolutely no use except on a battle field, yet just have to have one because they are ignorant rednecks. the sooner we ban guns, the sooner this country will be much safer from evil. it's a fact but the ignorant can't comprehend it.
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# 2013-02-01 08:31
I wouldn't say that they are uneducated. I would say they have educated themselves from some very bizarre sources, which get widespread airing and promotion on only one major television network. They are also stunningly uninformed when it comes to information readily available from mainstream sources--like what actually happened in history and what officials of our government actually are doing. Because they loathe and distrust the mainstream, they are almost conditioned to think the opposite of anything they hear from it. They failed to learn the basic lessons of critical reasoning: how to tell whether your sources of information are good or garbage.
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# 2013-02-01 09:09
"If you don't read the paper you are uninformed, if you do, you're misinformed" Said Mark Twain
May want to turn off the "mainstream" media and their narrative, bias and emotion, there is no place for that in the realm of logic and reason.
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# 2013-02-01 11:40
I am not necessarily talking about the same "mainstream" media you are. Unless you count refereed academic publications and journals, the news reporting section of the New York Times, NPR, etc. and feel that they are no more reliable than circular-reasoned and conspiracy-favoring sites like Breitbart, WND, the Blaze, etc. .
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# 2013-02-01 09:49
Wow, so far I've been labeled a "crazy survivalist", "paranoid conspiracy nut", "wacko conservative" (I'm actually a card carrying Libertarian), "ignorant redneck", & "stunningly uninformed" because you assume I am a blind follower of "one major television network" (Newsflash: I'm not a fan ).
However, it appears you must label me as such in order to validate your viewpoint.
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# 2013-02-01 11:42
Well, since you believe that Hitler took away his people's guns (and that gun control led to the rise of the Nazi party when the opposite was the case) and that there is a meaningful parallel between the Syrian civil war and the threat to American citizens from their own government, I am merely looking for a shoe to fit.
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# 2013-02-01 13:33
I did not say that gun control led to the rise of the Nazi party. The Nazi's confiscated guns only from the Jews at first, then from citizens of the nations they invaded. (It was easy for them to do as most European nations had gun registration at the time). As far as German kid's being "armed to the teeth", do you realize they were conscripts forced to the shrinking front lines to 'defend the fatherland'?
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# 2013-02-01 16:06
They were conscripts who were forced--mostly, but not all of them. Some were members of the Hitler Youth who had been indoctrinate their whole lives. But, they WERE armed to the teeth. But, the Jews were declared non-citizens before their arms were confiscated (and after they lost their jobs), and conquered peoples were conquered peoples. The parallel to "Hitler took their guns so watch out lest Obama take YOUR guns," which you invoke, does not hold water. The American people are not conquered, and haven't been declared non-citizens, and only the wildest most paranoid thinking would lead to even a suggestion of such a risk. We are dealing with a duly elected moderate liberal, who has been very careful to work within centrists interpretations of the 2nd amendment. That's all.
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# 2013-02-01 09:05
The fact is violent crime is 5 times higher in the UK. Yes, nuts with guns do bad things, they always will. An ability to stop that nut, to discourage that nut in the first place prevents crime.
http://blog.skepticallibertarian.com/2013/01/12/fact-checking-ben-swann-is-the-uk-really-5-times-more-violent-than-the-us/
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# 2013-02-01 10:10
I read an interesting article the other day suggesting that many men in this country feel powerless and inadequate today..no say at work...women are getting more rights and power..perceived governmental intrusion on their lives..political influence diminishing..and they use gun ownership as a macho thing to pump up their egos and feel "strong and dangerous" again. While i don't fully agree with it all..i think there is some truth to this..judging by some of the things i hear gun owners say. "From my cold dead hands!" ring a bell? "Let 'em TRY and take my guns!"....'This property protected by Smith and Wesson!"...or the glazed over eyes as they describe their new gun..or how they blew the head off a woodchuck last weekend. Just listen to ANYTHING Ted Nugent says about guns!Face it..some guys just love the power...and enjoy killing things.
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# 2013-02-01 13:23
Oh, you mean like our commander in chief?
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# 2013-02-01 16:21
The notion that our commander in chief wants to take your guns away is paranoid nonsense, albeit ginned up by the NRA, and other gun advocate groups, and by survivalists during his first term. During his first term he did NOTHING about gun control. The only things being proposed now are a response to Sandy Hook, and are reasonable and crafted to be in full compliance with the constitution.

The only reason to own some of the weapons targeted by the reforms is to be able to shoot cops or the military--when they come to get you, I suppose. But that path of reasoning would also argue that anything the military has you should too. This sort of thinking is what led to Oklahoma City, to many of the shooting incidents and to Sandy Hook itself, if reports about Lanza's mom are true.
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# 2013-02-01 16:30
You mean Bush 2...right?
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# 2013-02-01 16:52
Absolutely. Bush 1, Bush 2, Obama. not a bit of difference.
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# 2013-02-01 13:50
Well according to PK another disciple of Lord Williams the Pie-eyed Piper of Bowling Green, thinking eliminating guns like Chicago eliminates crime and the bad guys. How do all the countries who hate america and don't have a gun industry get their guns - can you girls say Black Market? This is just like when the govenment stopped alcohol in our country years ago - WRONG. The same power and enjoying killing things described by PK resides in the bloody hands of those killing millions of innocent children on the verge of being born. Not only will the inventory of guns in our country protect the sorry _sses of the liberal whinners but our country from invasion from the outside world that hates us. Iran, North Korea,China and many others are on a path to take over our country with missles and then occupation - evil lives guns protect.
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# 2013-02-01 15:21
and Thus Spake Captain Crazy once again to the amusement of the masses.
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# 2013-02-01 16:12
Iran, North Korea, and China "on the path to take over our country with missiles and then occupation." Are you crazy? (OK, you are). Do you know ANYTHING about the outside world? Are you aware that the US has the strongest military in the world, by a wide margin, and is under no threat from attack by any nation? Your view is childish, simplistic, and uninformed, and I only hope that someone else has control over the sharp objects in your household.

Ignorance is NOT strength. And it certainly wins no arguments.

BTW, there are a number of Iranians who live in this part of Ohio. Ask one of them about Iran's plans to invade the U.S. They'll have trouble slamming the door in your face, they'll be laughing so hard.
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# 2013-02-01 17:00
If we are not in danger of attack by any nation, why the NDAA & war on terror & the nations we claim support it?
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# 2013-02-01 16:30
Wow. Comparing abortion to war..again. And our privately owned guns are going to protect us from Iran when they arrive on our shores to "take us over"? Double wow. And i am no disciple of anyone or anything..my opinions are my own..yours come from fear and Fox.
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# 2013-02-01 23:13
So, pk, should we tell Mr. Caron that we have a vast and dominant military in place to take care of Iran long before he would ever have to use his own arsenal to fight those nasty Persian home invaders? Or should we let him live on in his delusion that he is the only thing standing between Ahmedinajad or Kim Jong-un and what he calls the "sorry _ss" liberals that actually make up the majority in this country?
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# 2013-02-01 16:33
And, since you have elsewhere lumped all educators together as "liberal whiners" whose "sorry _sses" needed protecting, I get the impression that you are incapable of seeing any darned thing from any point of view other than your own, sorry, uninformed own.
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# 2013-02-01 18:32
Have read your posts with great amusement for some time now Mr. Caron..but my amusement is rapidly turning to disgust! The more you talk..the more it shows that you value no ones opinion but your own narrow view of the world..and that facts mean nothing to you. You are a jealous..fearfull..and frankly scary..individual. But hey..keep talking..
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# 2013-02-02 10:27
Lord williams and his little band who live in Fantasy Land. I guess Pearl Harbor never happened and planes did not crash into buildings in New York. I also guess these whimps also think our Civil war did not happen nor did Germany who made a great attempt to rule the world. Yep just lay around and disarm our citizens, reduce our military like Obama wants and make us less a threat to the World. Obama who is afraid of a budget, is doing nothing toward getting the millions out of work a job, and spending like crazy with no end in sight while our education system is rotting due to little focus on student success and tremendous focus on the taxpayer feedbag. The taxpayer money tree is dying due to outdated contracts and entitlement attitudes that are starting to suck an empty nipple. The US is headed to losing the dollar as world currency
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# 2013-02-03 09:05
Why do you think the "little band who live in Fantasy Land" are a fringe little group--or that I personally know any of the others who share my viewpoint? They are actually the majority. And everything else you say is paranoid, incoherent, and uninformed.

The U.S. does have a buffer against invasion from the outside, and it is called the U.S. military, not you and your gun stash. That military is the largest and most effective in the world by a large margin, and still will be after any proposed budget cuts.

No one is disarming you or proposing to do so.

The economy is growing; the only net job losses are in the public sector.

And until you realize that student success is not helped by cutting teachers and increasing class size, you'll never understand a damned thing about education.
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# 2013-02-04 12:19
This is beyond laughable as the brilliant one continues to fail reading comprehension. Bowling Green is considering cutting 100 teaching positions and what will they do with the money - divide it up amonst those still teaching - so much for their Union Brothers and Sisters another example of their entitlement greed. Abort a number of teachers and rob their bodies. As the real world is looking towards more internet online teaching, having larger class sizes with the theory you are teaching adults not babysitting or reteaching those who barely passed their ninth grade test to make it to college. Unions are fighting results as means testing of our sorry education system. They want to be measured by how much money they make not graduation rates or results. The biggest Williams joke is saying the private sector is not creating jobs.
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# 2013-02-04 16:40
Speaking of reading comprehension problems, you seem to think I said the opposite of what I actually did say: the growth in jobs IS in the private sector. The public sector does, technically, include educators at public university These are not MY numbers. They are the numbers of the Bureau of Labor Statistics and other sources that come out every month.

You also know nothing about quality in college teaching. Most of the classes taught at a university cannot be as successfully taught online as they can be face-to-face. Learning often happens through classroom discussion, and the Socratic method (bet you don't know what that is, though most readers will). Large class sizes work against writing and the development of critical/analytical thinking skills.
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# 2013-02-04 16:43
You also (unwittingly) prove the BGSU-FA's point. They are not impressed by having the money saved divided among those who remain. It isn't about the money (though that's all YOU care about, Phil). It is about the deterioration of educational value by forcing larger class sizes and making it harder for successful research-oriented professors to maintain their cutting edge and bring that directly into the classroom.
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# 2013-02-04 17:10
personal attack, no more mostly less.
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# 2013-02-04 12:34
Claiming the public sector is not creating jobs means the only growth according to the Brilliant One are all the leaches on the taxpayers meaning less and less are paying more and more. All this while you have the great one blowing all the stimulus money last term and has no plan to increase the public sector by creating real jobs not make work jobs. I will give him credit he has done a tremendous job booming the automatic weapon market and ammunition market. He as also done a great job in helping the teachers who specialize in training of concealed carry and learning to shoot all kinds of weapons. i guess that will be what he will be remembered for and not much else but his golf game and vacation miles.
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# 2013-02-04 16:45
The public sector means the government, don't you?

You also realize that "make work" jobs involving the infrastructure are needed, real, and truly stimulative, don't you?

Are you aware that big parts of the stimulus--far from being "blown"--went to prevent planned teacher layoffs on the state level, a large number of infrastructure projects, and tax breaks, some of which you enjoyed?
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# 2013-02-04 16:49
Cuts in teachers are one of the main reason why the public sector is not creating jobs. Public schools are in the public sector, but if you had studied in school, you would know that.

You really feel that teachers should be spending their time developing weapons skills instead of teaching skills, don't you?

For the record, Obama has spent fewer days on vacation than his predecessor, and he has as much right to go home to Hawaii as GWB had to go home to Texas.
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# 2013-02-04 17:12
axe grinding here, nothing else
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# 2013-02-03 10:54
Again..no one is trying to take your guns away..stop crying! As to your view of the economic crisis...maybe instead of all the money going to the top..(who hoard and don't spend..OR create new jobs) ..and busting unions and demonizing public employees..and making states "Right to work for Less" states...and shipping our jobs overseas so the Wal Mart lovers can get a bargain...we should get back to rebuilding our Middle Class. This is the only way to get our economy back on track. Unfortunately..Conservatives and corporate greed continue to trash our economy.,,even as you blame Obama for not creating jobs..the Repubs continue to "suckle at the nipple" of corporate money..invest overseas..and get rich at their employees expense.
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# 2013-02-03 14:18
Also, Phil, you are not going to get very far calling the reality-based world "Fantasy Land." Do some research for once, and choose sources whose only agenda is getting the facts right.
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# 2013-02-04 20:44
Ok Don-when the next person in Toledo gets stabbed do we ban all knives? That means anything that could be used as a knife, even medical tools and clippers. Then what goes after that?
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# 2013-02-03 08:37
Great Phil,you can take my place in the next Iraq.You are the only fool that has super great courage posting on this site.I know I will be safe from all invaders as long as you live in Wood County.Wimps,what a Joker.
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# 2013-02-04 12:08
Well being a little older I served during Vietnam so don't play the service card with me. Seems like Obama has some excellent double standards, shooting a gun - did he have a background check including birth certificate? He is oposed to arming schools but the schools his children attend are armed? Thanks for recognizing my lack of fear from Snapperhead (do you have a name or have no conviction on your issues) Lord Williams and his little band of liberals - all the same people who post after post after post - maybe it is just Lord Williams using 5 different names? After reading his post I need to take my anti dumb pill and tums. He is the imperial wizard who is always right, and never found a tax dollar he did not like or support.
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# 2013-02-04 15:44
Axe to grind or what?

Nothing but personal attacks with no substance.

Your anti-dumb pill is not working.
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# 2013-02-04 15:46
Phil, you seem smaller with every single post, and certifiably insane for continuing to believe that it is my views that are extreme and held by just a few. Jeez. So, you recycle two of the lamest old hypes from Obama Derangement Syndrome. The birth certificate? Really? Did you realize that as president he and his family are required to have 24/7 Secret Service protection? And were you also aware that the security guards employed at Sidwell Friends are unarmed?

Phil, you have a right to say any nonsense you feel like saying. But relentlessly mocking people who are better informed than yourself does not persuade, nor does it win arguments. It only makes you seem even more stupid, sheltered, and paranoid than you first appeared.
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# 2013-02-04 16:26
Some people just seem to have a hard time with the fact that the US is becoming more diverse and more Liberal...they feel the grip of old.white.Conservatives slipping..and they react with anger and frustration...and in Caron's case..stupidity and hatred.
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# 2013-02-04 16:27
Lord Williams you continue to assume and avoid the tremendous amount of substance and facts I provide. Let's go back to my comment how BGSU is laying off 100 so they can divide up the remaining funds because they may have 3 more students in their classes unless they have their assistants run their classes and do the minimal grut work. I am only illustrating your 30th use of the same "T" bag providing your consistent weak arguements. What is your fearful leaders plan and will we ever have a budget within his last three year golf vacation. When you and your cult ignore reality - you can only see your own opinion as you spin down your toilet of life. If you and the girls claim your leader is providing jobs and will solve your spending crisis - smoke on!! My next wisdom will be a real life ObamaDon'tCare harming those with handicaps.
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# 2013-02-05 07:31
Phil, you are not one to lecture me about what BGSU is doing. You have no clue, as you show here. And your comment as a whole also doesn't even make any sense. You provide no substance. You provide no facts. And you show you can't even understand the jobs reports that come out every month. I suppose you are a poster child for what happens when you not only get your "news" only from right-wing sources but refuse to pay attention to anything else, and lack basic reading skills to boot. Ignorance is not strength, man. Stop flailing your fists and pretending it is.
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# 2013-02-05 08:56
The jobs report is as bogus as the administration without taking those who have quit looking for jobs that are not be counted so the real number is much closer to 20%+ who are out of work and the reason places like BGSU are needing to cut back due to education expects a steady stream of entitlement income and benefits while the real world adjust with their budgets. I was in error as I view the public sector to not include all the government and education fungus who are arrogant they should not share in the econmy around them. I got the headlines from the Sentinel article recently who reported the issue. The jobs report reflects the worst consistent ecomomy nearly ever with ZERO hope in sight. If you have not noticed in Fantasy Land, George Bush is gone and lip service has done nothing is over 4 years, clip your heels, flap your ears!
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# 2013-02-05 11:24
Caron, you really have no idea what you are talking about do you?

You have not laid out a SINGLE fact or insight into ANYTHING. I'm sorry, but your posts really are no more than a laughingstock for our entertainment. You know that, right?
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# 2013-02-05 14:25
The only reason I am responding is for the benefit of other readers who might be confused about some of the issues he is garbling.
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# 2013-02-05 11:32
1. Readily available analyses of the jobs report DO take the people who have stopped looking into account. It is nowhere near 20%. And the Feb 1 reports showed a drop in that number, as well as a dramatic UPward revision of jobs added in November and December. That's why the unemployment went up slightly even with all the added jobs.
2. Your comments about faculty staffing at BGSU are completely clueless. You know nothing about college education, based on your comments. BGSU already has the lowest salary scale of any peer institution in the state of Ohio, and the benefits package is nothing special. The concerns being voiced are not about pay, but about the quality of education that can be offered with the reduction in staffing. Nothing "entitlement" about it.
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# 2013-02-05 11:39
"worst consistent economy nearly ever" is a comical phrase, "Zero hope" even sillier. Do you include the Great Depression? Do you include the last few months of 08? Do you compare it to what is going on in Europe? Doesn't seem like it.

The private sector is all the non-government economy, which is improving steadily, if slowly. The only parts of the economy that have shrunk have been the pubic sector, which is entirely the "government and education fungus" of which you speak. There is no other "public" economy. These are basic definitions of basic words. And it is nice to know you regard the education sector as "fungus." It puts all of your comments in perspective. Ignorance might be bliss, but it isn't strength .
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# 2013-02-05 14:41
They are armed guards per the news report I read. And once again your fearful leader has made another record by having food stamps going 75% faster than job growth but according to Lord Williams all is well in Fantasy Land as pixy dust for everyone. Once again the Word Twister dreamed I said the gifted ones children should not be protected - never said that genius Williams - better go to a better brand of smoke while reading my great post while sharing my wisdom to your little liberal club. Just for your futther information, I draw my strength from my faith and it is not worshiping you as all your wacky lacky club do hanging on your every word. I am obviously not writing to change your mind no matter how little it is.
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# 2013-02-05 17:03
The claim of armed guards at Sidwell Friends has been debunked. The Washington Post fact checker gave the NRA's press release (your "news article") 4 Pinocchios, its worst rating for dishonesty:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/01/18/no-sidwell-friends-school-has-no-armed-guards/

Food stamps are a sign of poverty. Reliance on them is due to the aftermath of the economic collapse of 2008 and the fact that living on minimum wage jobs is very difficult for families. They are not driven by the president's policies.

Phil, I am a Christian and find almost all of your comments offensive. Mocking me for being better informed is idiotic.

If your mind was more filled with facts than blind hatred and ignorance people would take you more seriously.
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# 2013-02-06 08:55
Okay lord williams finally got one right but the fact remains the President understands the value of a private school while public schools are nothing but an assembly line who is content with a 12 grade student having a 9th grade education to graduate. In education it is what is just good enough NOT the best like the real World of business where your product needs to be the best. This is why our Public School students are getting their butts kicked on the World Stage. Doctors, Airplane Drivers, Ford Motor Company can't survive on the Lord Williams cult "just good enough mantra" while scared of being accountable for the products they are pushing out on the street! When is Obama Careless, and you Williams going to take responsibility as 2008 is long gone and food stamps and welfare are Obama's job program! Just more voters for Demos!
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# 2013-02-06 11:11
Apparently you are unaware of anything Ed. Secretary Arne Duncan has said over the past four years. The assembly line approach to teaching is absolutely not the ideal of education you hear embraced by Dems. It is not what Strickland advocated, etc. It is, however, heard from some Republicans, including Rick Scott in Florida and the Texas Board of Education. It is insulting that you accuse me of a "good enough mantra," but you have been so busy mocking me that you haven't heard a darned word I have said.

Food stamps and the need for welfare are products of poverty; they are not presidential initiatives, and they are the products of the economic collapse, which we have not recovered from, as anybody knows. You're a fine one to complain about 9th grade-level education when you reason like a 3rd grader.
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# 2013-02-06 21:06
A couple days ago you referred to educators as "fungus." That disqualifies you from having anything useful to say on the subject. Go back in your hole.

For the record, the more you speak the more clueless you seem.
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# 2013-02-05 19:52
You are obviously afraid of anyone else's ideas but your own and Ann Coulter's. You are a joke, Phil Caron. The whole readership is laughing at you and your shallow & ignorant posts.
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# 2013-02-05 10:45
Once again just because Lord Williams speaks it must be true. Well the Sidwell Friends school attended by the special ones (private schools not public) have 11 security guards for all children attending.
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# 2013-02-05 11:27
It is just funny that you think that it is hypocritical for the President's children to deserve special protection. And those security guards? unarmed.
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# 2013-02-05 13:52
Start using facts (i know..a dirty word to a Conservative)to bolster your arguments instead of personal opinion..and you'd be taken more seriously.
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# 2013-02-04 17:22
Phil,thanks for keeping me safe from the NVA.
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