To the Editor: Pastor: Our problem is not guns, but godless culture
Written by John Randall, pastor   
Wednesday, 30 January 2013 10:37
How tragically ironic that the same people who celebrate a mother's right to murder her own preborn baby become outraged when a stranger does the killing. After all, what is a 'mere' 20 murdered in a school compared to 3,200 murdered daily in abortion clinics?
I completely agree that no one needs a semi-automatic firearm, but that begs the question, "so what?" No one needs a vodka martini either, even though alcohol destroys more lives than guns do. No one needs a car that goes faster than the speed limit, yet people still buy fast automobiles and deliberately ignore posted speed limits.
If gun control is implemented, which model do you intend to use, Prohibition or the War on Drugs? In both cases, the supposed cure made things worse, not better.
Whenever government gets involved in do-gooding, it not only fails, but actually exacerbates the problem, driving us further into debt and dividing people into warring factions. Welfare programs have made more poor people, not fewer.
Gun laws create more criminals while doing nothing to stop the violence of a dystopic culture.
Our problem is not guns or video games, but a corrupt, immoral, godless culture that exalts the flesh over the spirit.
Until and unless that changes, things will only become worse, regardless of any new laws that are passed.
John Randall, pastor
Sugar Ridge Community Church
 

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# 2013-01-30 10:54
So...since the government can't seem to do anything right..they should just get out of the way and let your book of fairy tales written back when men believed the world was flat dictate all..and all the worlds evils would be cured? Religion has caused more problems in the world..started more wars..pitted more people against each other..than anything i can think of. When churches start paying taxes..they can have a say in governmental policies.
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# 2013-01-30 11:18
"Preborn baby" is not even a real thing. It is a buzz-term used by extremists to destroy the lives of women and force them to have unwanted births.

WHY WHY WHY does the sent trib print these disgusting letters by extremist pastors who think they are better than us?

Disgusting.
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# 2013-01-31 14:33
I don't understand how advocating for an un-born child is extremist position.
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# 2013-01-31 15:35
It is attempting to define fictional rights to a non-person (fetal tissue) over the pre-existing rights of a living woman.

Negating and denying the ethical principle of human rights for women is pretty extreme.
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# 2013-01-31 16:08
Brian there you go again - you are so right that you think the Sentinel should only allow you and Lord Williams space? Do you even know the editorial position of the Sentinel on this issue? Maybe you are the one lucky to be published with your executioner attitude towards babies and the unborn. Were you ever an unborn and if you were; should you have been allowed to live based upon wanting to kill other babies? If there is a murder and you drive the get away car you are also held responsible like all those who make a living killing babies or as you say globs of tissue like you once were. Supporting Roe Wade makes you also guilty. Are you saying out of the 51 million killed every glob of tissue deserved to not have a life? There are still only 10 laws that rule - all the rest were invented for the convienience of man.
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# 2013-01-31 18:14
Support for Roe has actually gone UP over the last decade: 70% of the American public wants to see it upheld. Maybe 0% live in your household, but your attempt to portray my or even Brian's attitudes as fringe is laughable on the face of it.

Saying people who have or perform abortions should be executed, as you have done, disqualifies you from having anything useful to say on the issue, you disrespectful, sanctimonious twit. There are pro-life conservatives on this site who have thoughts and brains on this issue; you are not one of them.
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# 2013-02-01 09:46
Lord Williams and lacky Brian - and where is there documentation of 70% supporting abortion? You must both sit around and make up numbers to support your desire to play God. A majority of the Germans supported gasing the Jews but it did not make it right or approved by the rule of God. You both still will not answer if you can terminate a living glob of tissue and still sleep good at night. What do you guys do with the globs of tissue after the murder? Once again you and Brian can't handle the obvious - let's pretend nothing happened! Letter's that reflect the larger community once again mirrors the North Korean newspaper - the kind Dictator Williams and lacky Brian want as they are both more smart than anyone. This is based upon Williams higher level of knowledge and education!
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# 2013-02-01 11:48
1. Wall Street Journal Poll published 10 days ago. The support was for Roe v. Wade. Gain in support even came among self-identified Republicans.
2. A majority of Germans did NOT support gassing the Jews, because a majority of Germans did not know about the gassing of the Jews.
3. Why on earth do you bring up North Korea?
4. Why do you fail to recognize that abortion is a painful decision even when it is decided for, and that there are enough complicating circumstances that it best be left personal and legal.
5. Are the entire world and all moral questions a simple "yes" and "no" question to you? No wonder your comments always sound so childish.
6. Abortion is not the same as mass murder of post-birth human beings; saying so is obscene.
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# 2013-02-01 15:30
Just so you know I sleep GREAT at night.
Especially so, knowing that I have helped so many underprivileged women continue to live their lives. It's a WONDERFUL feeling.
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# 2013-02-01 16:39
BTW--let's see if you can process this; I warn you that it is complex--support for keeping abortion legal is not the same as liking abortion. There are very few people on the pro-choice side of the argument who like abortion. They simply do not think that it is so clear and simple that criminal codes and penalties can be applied to a very private and personal thing.

As for all the comparisons that people like you like to make between abortion and genocides and mass murders, there is a crucial difference: an abortion is never a mass murder, even if you hold the idea--which I do not--that a mere fertilized egg is a full person. It is always only one woman, one embryo, one situation.
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# 2013-02-01 10:06
CW, I don't know if I would call you a "Lord," but pc is definately the village idiot.
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# 2013-01-31 19:08
How crazy.

Keep posting Phil: your bizarre rhetoric is definitely making you look crazier and more reactionary each time.

The Sentinel should publish letters that are reflective of the larger community. YOURS are definitely not that by a long, long, long shot.
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# 2013-01-30 11:20
Also: Xtianity is more irrelevant as an code of ethics every day. It's own priests and pastors have demonstrated their own sick immorality and the entire edifice is morally bankrupt.

Today, in 2013, we have humanist ethics and science!
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# 2013-01-30 22:22
Actually, Brian, the problem is not Christianity--whose messages ARE relevant--but its radical practitioners, who seem incapable of understanding the underlying messages of the life of Jesus or even the Golden Rule. This has been an age-old tension within the institutional church.
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# 2013-01-31 15:37
Ok Williams, compromise:

PART of the problem (a large part, IMO) is PART of Xtianity. (I think that *part is pretty large too, though.)
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# 2013-01-30 11:20
I invite the pastor to explore the relationship of gun violence to gun control laws in other countries of the developed world. It would show that his reasoning is incoherent and way off base.

There is no contradiction between passing reasonable gun control legislation and taking into account violence in the entertainment industry and the lack of intelligence with which our society deals with issues of mental health.

As to the "godless" society, are you actually suggesting that people who worship differently from yourself (and are thus godless in that respect) or who do not believe in God at all are at fault for the epidemic of gun violence? If so, then you don't understand the First Amendment any better than you understand the Second Amendment.
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# 2013-01-30 13:48
You elect a godless president with extreme views, you get a godless culture.
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# 2013-01-30 16:01
Mainstream views of the majority, actually.
It is 2013 now, not 1313.
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# 2013-01-30 16:40
No..we elected a Christian president with moderate views that reflect the popular view of the country. Turn on Fox/Faux news to see extreme views supported by a radical, vocal minority. As to a 'Godless culture"..that's a reflection of people finally emerging from the Dark Ages of fantasy into the real world. Get used to it...or become irrelevant.
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# 2013-01-31 14:04
George Bush, W and HW, and Reagan godless too? They were all presidents during the "godless" reign of Roe V. Wade. Why didnt any of them overthrow it?
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# 2013-01-30 15:32
Really sent-trib, it is time to stop posting letters like this. If he wants to preach this in his church, so be it, but it is an extremist view that does not belong in a community paper.

And, correct me if I'm wrong, but we do have regulations on speed limits and drunk driving. The government interference has been quite successful in keeping me from going 80 in a 55, no matter how late I am. And I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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# 2013-02-01 08:38
Actually, when letters like these are printed they can be very instructive. The people who come out in strong, extreme support of them are often the very same people who roundly and consistently attack education, seeing, for instance, faculty cutbacks as a cause for rejoicing.

It's the "ignorance is strength" crowd (with apologies to Orwell).

Coincidence? I think not.
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# 2013-01-30 18:23
Pastor,What is your take on medical marijuana?
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# 2013-01-31 12:24
Snapperhead: Frankly, I have no problem with it. When I was in Vietnam, the children would collect marijuana 'roaches'and mix them with water as a treatment for upset stomachs. I have mixed feelings about legalizing drugs in general, but I know the present approach is a disaster.
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# 2013-02-01 10:11
Thanks Pastor..
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# 2013-01-31 11:57
The dumbest part in all this is the constant comparison of gun control to abortions.

Actually, if we applied the same regulations to guns that are currently in place for abortions, I think the gun control folks would be ecstatic.

NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT TOTALLY BANNING GUNS!!!
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# 2013-01-31 14:31
Pastor, this is a fantastic letter. As a founding member of the libertarian party in Wood county I would like to invite you to our monthly meetings. They are every first Wednesday in the basement of Way public library. Well done!
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# 2013-01-31 14:57
Hope all 3 of you sheep have fun in Mom and Dad's basement..baaah baaah..
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# 2013-01-31 15:39
Capitalism and Xtianity, eh?

Now THERE is a combination that failed humanity for some 400 years! What a big mistake!
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# 2013-02-02 11:18
We should arm all unborn fetuses with guns. That way they can defend themselves against the abortion doctors. Gives a whole new meaning to conceal carry!
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# 2013-02-03 09:06
Limbaugh proposed a particularly obscene and unrepeatable variant of this concept, and he did so without your sense of irony or absurdity.
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# 2013-02-08 18:52
This shooting is not the fault of Republicans or Democrats. It is not because of guns. It is because of one man. Blaming it on such things as people not praying to your deity of choice hard enough is incredibly blind. Other countries have violent video games, the so called "sins" that this writer no doubt hates, and they don't have these types of shootings. Well, there was the Norway shooter, but I doubt a Christian conservative would wish to talk about that one.
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