| To the Editor: Commission members reaffirm BG's commitment to social justice, inclusion |
| Written by Bowling Green Human Relations Commission |
| Wednesday, 20 March 2013 09:28 |
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We, the undersigned, are members of the City of Bowling Green Human Relations Commission. This commission currently consists of eleven community members, including representatives from Bowling Green State University and Bowling Green High School. The Bowling Green Human Relations Commission supports a welcoming, inclusive, socially just, and equitable community. Our support has been demonstrated in the community in the following ways: • Planning and implementing the City of Bowling Green 24th Annual Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Tribute, on Jan. 18; • Recognizing community members with the annual Drum Major for Peace Award and the quarterly Honor Roll Award for significant efforts that further human relations and promote respect for diversity; • Supporting local events such as Cinco de Mayo and Japanese Cherry Blossom Festival. In view of recent developments in our community that conflict with federal law and the goals of the commission, we believe it is important to reaffirm the city's commitment to social justice, equity, and inclusion as we embrace and celebrate the diversity of the City of Bowling Green's residents, students, and visitors. Dr. Roger Grant, Gary Keller, Lt. Dan Mancuso, Dr. Emily Monago, Margaret Montague, Gloria Enriquez Pizana, Marcy St. John, Declan Wicks, James Wilson, Rev. Mary Jane Saunders, Vice Chair, and Dr. Barbara Keller, Chair Bowling Green Human Relations Commission |
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What are you so afraid of? Honoring different people? Typical Libertarian.
Have you seen libertarians in your neighborhood?
We come in all shapes and colors. Our policies reflect free association and voluntary association with others. It is of a higher order of equality and "social justice".
We do not force others to perform in any manner or another. It is the reason why most progressives really don't like us. We don't like to tell people what to do or what to think.
I think you need to learn what libertarianism is, and what our party stands for, as opposed to making generalized remarks without any foundation or reason.
The Libertarian Party was the FIRST political party in Ohio to endorse the Ohio Freedom to Marry Amendment. Soak that in for a little bit. We did this long before the democrat party got around to voting on it...
"states' rights" rhetoric, and their appeal to the Constitution is often garbled by the worst kind of revisionism.
But Disgusted is very wrong to associate libertarianism and the libertarian Party with bigotry and hatred. We have have been though our history the most open party to a wide demographic in this country, and was the only party on the side of the LGBT community in their struggle with government backed discrimination.
It is people like the Tea Party and thier counters like "Disgusted" that are making things worse and not allowing real debate and collaboration.
Quote: Actually you enjoy blaming the Tea Party.
Quote:1. "Overt" means public or open. Why is that bad? 2. "Radically conservative" is an oxymoron and pejorative. 3. Since when are concepts such as limited government, individual liberty, and personal responsibility "radically conservative social ideas?"
Quote:Only cavemen believe in the Constitutional principle of federalism?
2. You say "personal responsibility; " I say "give the government control over your uterus" and "force the gays back into the closet" and "impose a particular Christian viewpoint on everyone else"
3. States Rights was the rallying cry for preserving slavery (not quite paleolithic I suppose) and fighting the civil rights movement.
Lies, lies, and more lies, which is what Leftists do because few would listen if they told the truth.
Or are you just having fun calling me a liar?
From our Party Platform:
"we defend each person's right to engage in any activity that is peaceful and honest, and welcome the diversity that freedom brings."
"Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the government's treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws. Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships. Consenting adults should be free to choose their own sexual practices and personal relationships."
"Libertarians embrace the concept that all people are born with certain inherent rights. We reject the idea that a natural right can ever impose an obligation upon others to fulfill that "right." We condemn bigotry as irrational and repugnant. Government should neither deny nor abridge any individual's human right based upon sex, wealth, ethnicity, creed, age, national origin, personal habits, political preference or sexual orientation."
So, when you speak of the Party having some type of diversity issue, you should really rethink your finding of facts. We have supported a far more reaching diversity over the course of 40 years than the Democrats, or any other political Party.
-Nathan Eberly
Chairman of the Libertarian Party of Wood County.
Your hypocrisy is obvious when you oppose things like a Dr. King Tribute and the other things in this article.
Also, I know what (small-l) libertarianism is historically, and your silly party is a far cry from that. It has become a haven for the new racism.
STORMFROMT endorses you! That's all I need to say. Go ahead, I expect you to post some rationalization for yourself.
Unlike yourself apparently I don't feel the need to group people, classify people, name call people.
It's ironic as Chris pointed out above that you come out against name calling by name calling.
Further I believe in only the smallest of minorities, the individual. Grouping people to me belittles them, it says, "here, you're not smart enough or able enough, let me, let us hold you up for some arbitrary reason and show you..."
Tiresome and nauseating.
Since you have neither the respect or courage to post with your real name, as well decide to attack, even though I have proven what our party stand for, I suppose this will not go any further.
Again, we stood up for the LGBT community. You know, the group of people and citizens who have yet to see real "social justice" as it is stated in the article.
Ignore what we do and what we say. Label us based upon what you believe libertarian (small l) beliefs are...but you are wrong.
even small L libertarian believes is about free and voluntary association, which is inherently equal and free, with the use of government for disputes and to combat fraud and force.
Not sure where you get your info. And I have no clue who STORMFROMT is...but he is not a spokesperson for the LP.
... Yeah, hate crimes are idiotic! It's one thing to murder someone but boy if you did it because you had malice towards his "group", well, now you're in the soup!
So, no, not so much on the feel good Kumbaya, pass the Chardonnay,we care stuff.
Substance, yes! Abolishing racist minimum wage laws, yes! Abolishing the War on Drugs and War on Poverty, yes! Lightening the burdensome regulatory apparatus that sends jobs overseas and to mexico, yes!
Announcing a day for a great man is nice, feels good, does nothing. Naming a highway after a brave women who said, "no" same thing, it doesn't help at all the plight of the inner city minority. Not sending his father to prison because instead of drinking wine he smoked a joint, yeah, that!
If you can not do that, I will have nothing else to say. I will not be in an argument on an internet forum with someone anonymous who attacks me and others without given proof or foundation in their argument.
Thanks "Disgusted".
-Nathan Eberly
Chairman of the Libertarian Party of Wood County.
Endorser of the Ohio Freedom to Marry Amendment and Volunteer for the Ohio Freedom to Marry Amendment.
Typical marxist, or fascist, same difference.
Stalinism is a horror equal to fascism in its toll on humanity, but is actually what left-extremism can lead to.
But, for the sake of honesty, Marxism is to Stalinism what capitalism is to fascism. It is an economic theory, not a governmental system, and one that is more useful as a tool for analyzing existing economic issues than as a model for organizing a government. It is not espoused by anyone in power in American government.
Quoting Brad Waltz:
LOL!
Social injustice does not have to be a casualty of a free market. But Conneaut seems to think social justice is not a worthy goal in the first place, and as long as there are people thinking like him, our society will be broken.
http://www.creators.com/opinion/walter-williams/greed-need-and-money.html
Assuredly, and know that when your revolution comes that I am also a supporter of the 2nd Amendment.
How do you know what I assume? Oh that's right, your omniscient.
Quoting Christopher Williams:
It's one of those "code" terms that you love to accuss others of. And if it isn't, again I ask you to explain to all of us how it is different than the teachings of Marx and Lenin.
Quoting Christopher Williams:
No, I explicitly threatened anyone who promotes revolution.
You are essentially accusing a bunch of very responsible and respected town leaders of being communists.
Ask any progressive Christian what "social justice" implies. Ask American civil rights leaders, or Nelson Mandela, or followers of Gandhi. The answer is NOT "communism."
If so, all I can say is remember the civil rights ordinance campaign. All those ordinances did was prevent against discrimination. It did not force values on others, but it was treated as such. That campaign in itself explains the need for this commission. (Marcy St. John, a beloved member of the community, was one of the leaders of that campaign, and I am sure that is why she is behind this new initiative.)
What is so hateful to you about the ideals of religious tolerance, peace, and inclusion?
So, the McCarthy-era repression and murder of the people of Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Belarus, the Ukraine, Poland, Slovakia, the Czech Republic, Hungary, and East Germany was just "rhetoric." I didn't know that.
If you do not think there is any difference between the social justice espoused in the LTE and communism, then you have embraced a rather dangerous breed of ignorance. Maybe you were one of those people who thought that MLK was a "crackpot," and do not want to see equal opportunities for anybody who is not just like you. Equality of opportunity is a deep American value. Communism promised equality of outcome, and guess what? it delivered one of the most unequal societies on earth, because it was inherently corrupt in practice.
Quoting Christopher Williams:
Now your smearing me as a racist? Is everyone who does not agree with you a racist? Well they must be. You only want what you think is good. Consequently everyone who diasagres with you must be evil. You could not possibly be wrong. Despite all the evidence of history.
2. The McCarthy movement explicitly targeted civil rights leaders. The social justice issues you are attacking in the LTE involve civil rights issues. It's not a leap for me to accuse you of this.
3.What you accuse me of is exactly what you are doing.
What do you imagine that you have read that you would make such a ridiculous statement?
It was the approach that Senator Joseph McCarthy of Wisconsin took in rooting out supposed communists from the U.S. government, as well as the entertainment industry and culture at large. Countless careers and reputations were ruined, an atmosphere of paranoia and finger-pointing was created and Arthur Miller wrote his play "The Crucible" largely in response to the "witch-hunt" atmosphere that "McCarthyism" became another word for. Almost none of the people McCarthy attacked was of any danger to the United States and the couple individuals where he might have been right (Alger Hiss, for instance) are controversial examples to this day.
It's you who are making ridiculous statements. The proper question is where are you getting YOUR foolish ideas?
Actually none of those things happened in the Army-McCarthy Hearings. Maybe elsewhere, but not specifically those hearings.
I'm not saying that McCarthy didn't ruin anyone's career, because he sure tried to, but could you name one example of the "lot" you mentioned?
Not sure the point of this organization in a town like BG.
If such an organization is needed, does that shout that our community is welcoming? At the surface, if the community feels it needs a human rights commission, it then means that there are human rights violations occuring in this town. That's not very inviting.
I'd rather live in a community which doesn't need labels, doesn't need forced association. I'd rather live in a community that is naturally welcoming. I think BG can be such a community, and doesn't need this commission.
Some day all these people may not be as strong for equality when they themselves become the minority, and their ideas are overridden by ideas of the new majority.
I think comments like "long term residents" help explain why there is such hatred of the university expressed when any pro-faculty or pro-student things are written about in the Sentinel.
Closed, monocultural communities do not see the need for recognizing human rights, because they are comfy and cozy not having anyone different from themselves living in their midst. But, unfortunately, that is not reality, even in rural Ohio, and it fails to recognize that the university is one of the things that makes BG different--and more attractive to business--from Fremont or Napoleon.
Your arrogance, ignorance and intolerance is sickening.
You don't like my intolerance of intolerant ignoramuses like yourself?
I'm truly sorry for offending you. Let's look up the word "bigot" in the dictionary, shall we?
I am truly sorry that you find open-mindedness offensive.
Because you make assumptions about the good, kind, hard-working people of communities like Fremont and Napoleon about whom you know nothing. Because you make moral assumptions about anyone who disagrees with you. Because of your continuous condescending attitude, snide insults, and reckless charges of racism, homophobia, mysogyny, McCarthyism, etc., etc. Because you are a mean-spirited hateful person. That's why.
If it is mean spirited and hateful to criticize people for insisting that their bigotry never be criticized or challenged, then I stand guilty as charged.
I did. How did Mr. Webster get your picture?
Bigots are people who want BG to be inclusive, welcoming and have a commitment to social justices.
I am a bigot because I criticize the "get off my lawn" attitude of Wood County residents who complain about all "those people" the university brought into their sleepy, happy world.
It's kind of like the "the only racists are the civil rights activists and minorities" line you hear so often in the rw media. Truly lovely. Orwellian much?
And there we have it. What's the matter, someone on the football team pick on you in high school? Be an adult and get over it.
The one where the two rapists are going to jail? Yeah, whats your point?
What on earth are you talking about?
The university recruits faculty NATIONALLY, and many of its faculty have, yes, come from urban areas or went to school in urban areas, but most of the faculty had nothing to do with public policy issues. You seem to just see the university as a source of foreign and welcome ideas. Please specify.
Your ideas have already been tried in the larger cities,maybe you should move to Toledo,get a position at Ut and move into the central city,with all its multicultural aspects,you and your ideals may be more confortable there.
Every dog has its day and so to will you have your day,enjoy it,for as you claim my time has passed so to will your's. I would hope you are then as progressive as you claim to be now for your ideas and ideals then will become as you claim mine are now. I wonder how your actions today will benfit you then?
Are you really attacking the ideals of long-time town residents and community leaders like those mentioned in the LTE as unwelcome intrusions on your peaceful existence?
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not every opinion is entitled to win arguments. Particularly if it is an ignorant one.
Or are you saying that he has incorrect views on McCarthyism, Marxism, fascism?
If you are so good and educated yourself, why do you have such wrong-headed views of those things, Conneaut?
I think that he, like many people, is too fond of Marxist economic principles. Not remembering all of Mr. williams words, I don;t think that I disagree with anything he has written about fascism.
Joe McCarthy had many faults, but he has been made into a one-dimensional bigot. The truth of what he did, and the popular and political support that he had, has been covered over. His errors, and the much more numerous faults and mistakes of others, have been simplistically lumped together under his name. A simplistic and one-dimensional study of history has not just little value, it is dangerous.
Your opinion is based on assumptions based on specualtion. You've lost touch with reality a long time ago. What have I ever written that was so "wrong-headed?"
It then continued by your flip assertion that fascism and Marxism were the same--when historically they are rooted in opposites. I would agree that the consequences of Hitlerism and Stalinism were equally evil, but that's not what you were saying.
It continued when you made the sloppy complaint that I was making weird statements by saying that McCarthyism and the crimes of Stalin were not the same thing.
EXCEPT, AGAIN, I NEVER WROTE THAT.
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Obviously McCarthyism and the crimes of Stalin are not the same thing. Why do you imagine that I would complain about such a statement?
Most of your arguements are with your imaginations.
Fascism is one of the great evils of the 20th century. Is that "wrong-headed?"
Plenty of economists, politicians, and historians that are smarter and better educated than I am believe Marxism is a bad idea. Is that "wrong-headed?"
The legend of McCarthyism is an over-reaction to the over-reaction to the fear of communism spreading in the USA. Is that "wrong-headed?"
It doesn't make you look good. It doesn't "poke holes" in my supposedly "inflated" self-opinion.
At best, it makes you sound like you are imitating one of the more ridiculously ignorant talking heads in rw media. I can't say whom--but attempts to portray fascists as closer to liberals than the right wing or to make McCarthy out to be some good guy are as common in some corners as they are idiotic.
(For the record, 1920s Germany and the Cold War are two of my scholarly specialty areas, so it is not about me having an inflated self-opinion).
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I didn't write anything about Joe McCarthy, HUAC, or communism that isn't factual and correct.
The fact is, I care about the community I called home for over 15 years and am still in touch with many people there, including some of the individuals listed in the LTE. And when I see them, or the principles of the university or the ideals of educators, attacked (often by you, Conneaut), my first impulse is to correct and educate. Because I sense--just as someone else above did--that you get a lot of your information from strictly partisan and politicized sources and the posers and fakers (the Bartons and Goldbergs of this world) who are promoted by the equally fake Glenn Becks of this world.
But in a community where a vocal minority fundamentally feel the same way about the university faculty in their midst, there is probably no point to my effort.
Does that mean that we will soon be free of your pontifications? How will we survive without your enlightenment?
As to Mr. Williams misquoting you: he quoted you exactly, though it is now obscured, so I don't know what your game is there. But trying to paint his mainstream and ACCURATE view of McCarthy and McCarthyism just takes the cake. Where do you get your "information?"
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