To the Editor: BG school board: We have a funding problem
Written by The Bowling Green Board of Education   
Wednesday, 23 January 2013 10:14
Some "facts" were recently printed (in a letter to the editor) about the Bowling Green School District that were misleading. These so-called facts suggested the BG Schools have a spending problem, not a funding problem. We present the following information to set the record straight.
The expenditure by the BG School District for the 2010-2011 school year was $10,260 per student, about average in Ohio. The writer compared the total cost of educating a child to tuition at St Aloysius and the BG Christian Academy, which is a false comparison. Tuition does not cover every cost per child. Religious education has different standards from public education, different funding sources, and operates with far fewer governmental mandates.
While inflation has continued to rise, schools have reduced expenses significantly: 48.5 full-time staff positions were eliminated (all through attrition), three buildings were closed with one more to be closed in June, three buildings were sold, and supply budgets were reduced. Teachers and staff have had 0% base salary increases for two years.
The starting salary for a teacher with a BA is $33,036. For comparison, postings in a recent Blade showed that where salaries are listed, only one (a breakfast cook) offered less than $33,000. Teachers are highly trained professionals who work very hard. They are not overpaid. Teachers are paid only for the actual days they work, not for holidays or summer vacations.
An unfair example of retirement compensation said that one could retire with 100% of their salary. Theoretically that is possible, but rare: the person would have had to work over 46 years. PERS and STRS set retirement rules, not this school district. Annual increases in retirement benefits and health care costs are determined by the state of Ohio through STRS and PERS.
Teaching is a high-level profession. 84% of our teachers have a master's degree or higher. None of them are being overpaid when compared to their peers in the private sector. Bowling Green hires top-notch teachers and holds them accountable. They deserve the salaries they receive.
The more you know about the BG School District, the more pride you will have in what is being accomplished even with the loss of $2.4 million in funding over the last three years. We don't have a spending problem, we have a funding problem.
The Bowling Green Board of Education
Ellen Scholl, President
Stephen Cernkovich
Eric Myers
Paul Walker
Lee Hakel
 

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# 2013-01-23 10:24
Thank you Board Members!
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# 2013-01-23 11:28
I hope that further commentary on this LTE will keep the rather hard facts it presents in mind.
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# 2013-01-23 15:11
I have every confidence that facts won't enter into some future posts...only knee-jerk reactionism.
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# 2013-01-23 15:50
Here are some more hard facts: In 2007, at the beginning of the great recession, there were a total of 7 personnel in the BG Schools making over $80,000/year. In 2009, there were 40 making over $80,000/year. In 2011, there were 80 making $80,000+. All this while simultaneously downsizing the staff and faculty. Is that good cost management?
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# 2013-01-23 21:32
This is because there are a great many veteran teachers at the top of the pay scale as they have been teaching for 30 years and over.
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# 2013-01-24 14:58
Now this is the history Lord Williams smarter than God ignores relative to the history of the entitlement greed and accelerated wages being paid the Schools. In Perrysburg the non value added administrators make $1.7 million with an average wage about $90k for their part time part year jobs with benefits the common man cannot get anymore along with total job protection and early retirement. Also their desire to double dip and prevent new teachers from a job. There is NO funding crisis just overpayment. All they need do for their brothers and sisters rather than cut the new blood while keeping the antiques is across the board cuts and everyone works - but threats are their main method of hammering taxpayers.
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# 2013-01-24 18:04
You are a very gracious and polite man, Mr. Caron, but not nearly as polite and gracious or finely intellectual as Rush or Hannity, whose styles you echo. Why are you responding so forcefully to ME when I was simply applauding the LTE? Why don't you respond to IT?

What is your educational background that makes you so upset with me?

I don't think as highly of myself as you think. And repeatedly going after me the way you do doesn't make you look very smart or persuade people about the correctness of your own views.

There are no reputed CONSERVATIVE thinkers on educational reform who would agree with your assertion that the only problem is that teachers are overpaid. I suppose that makes you a fascist rather than a conservative.
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# 2013-01-25 08:45
Now see you are assuming I am not very smart! I think the LTE's are one of the few great things we have left while the deck is still stacked in favor of the schools with ability to put an issue of the ballot until infinity and only needs to win once! As for my education it is living the realities of life learning every day adding to my appreciation of living in a free country that has room for everyones opinion as long as law abiding. I am not looking to change peoples opinion just get them to think and get involved is my mission. I could care less about your higher level of knowledge as long as you don't interfere with my rights.
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# 2013-01-26 09:16
So you have no experience living in the world of education beyond high school?

And you use that to pass judgment on educators?
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# 2013-01-26 09:23
One thing about being informed: if you are well-informed, then you don't presume things that are not true. You say many things that are known to be untrue, Phil, in order to "support" your arguments (your "mission"): like saying our international competitors don't support the advanced training of their teachers, that European social democracies are communism, or that Hitler took away guns from his citizens. There are only two possible sources for these incorrect ideas: talking points of right wing people you admire, or your bodily orifices.

Ignorance is not strength. It's just ignorance. And it doesn't win arguments by yelling it louder.

Basically, you see anything that doesn't benefit you personally as theft and an infringement on your rights; it's childish.
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# 2013-01-25 09:10
Caron is obviously a very troubled and insecure man. Knee jerk Fox reactionism at it's best. He cannot offer a valid argument so he resorts to name calling like a little kid. I see this in many discussions with Conservatives lately..Rush must have influenced them greatly in their debate skills. A more jealous and paranoid poster would be hard to find....
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# 2013-01-26 09:27
What's totally surreal is how these people--like Rush--think name-calling is a way to win arguments.

It's why U.S. politics are the laughing stock of the world. Jokes about the stupidity of American Republicans are almost as common as jokes about North Korea or Greek bankers. It's a shame because there are smart conservatives out there. Many of them are libertarian. The only problem is, they get primaried when they are politicians, and their more realistic view of the world doesn't have the mass audience that paranoid thugs can command.
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# 2013-01-23 15:55
Hmmmm, the Board says they have lost $2.4M over the past three years; an average of $800,000 per year. So why do they want a PERMANENT (continuing) levy which generates $4 MILLION per year? And, even with $4 MILLION more per year, it will only keep them in the black for three years! (2014 to 2017)?!? Which expenses are going up at the rate of over 3X inflation? The answer is in the salaries and benefits which comprise 80% of the budget.
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# 2013-01-23 11:49
Again, I ask that TOTAL raises in each of the contract years be no more than 2%/yr. Also the issue of sick-time needs to be addressed. A fortune 500 company typical benefit package would include 7 sick days, plus a short term(12 weeks) disability insurance plan(paid for by employer)and an optional long term disability insurance plan PAID FOR BY EMPLOYEE. There is NO need for the RATHER LARGE cash payout at retirement.Those school employees retiring in 2013 might just break the bank.
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# 2013-01-23 15:09
Most Fortune 500 companies plans include a matching 401k..ours does not. As to the sick time payouts..it would cost much more to pay a sub for teachers when they are off sick..they are saving money with the current system.
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# 2013-01-23 18:00
My insurance based sick-time plan would save money at retirement cash out. This should be implemented for ALL public employees. 7 sick days a year will cover the colds and flu,need a surgery, no problem, up to 12 weeks off at 100% pay(employer provided insurance policy). For more serious health problems, use an optional long term disability plan(paid for by employee) at 80% pay.GREAT SAVINGS over the long term and....NO SICK-TIME CASH-OUT AT RETIREMENT!
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# 2013-01-23 23:03
You say most companies include a matching 401k match. Yes, normally 3-4%. The tax payers pay 14% into each school employees retirement plan. That is except for administrators. In their case, BG taxpayers pay the administrator's (employee's portion) of 10%, too, for a total of 24%. Know any companies making a 24% contribution to 401k? No, I don't either As to sick time payouts, shouldn't teachers stay home if they are sick? 15 days per year of sick leave is comparable to 20 days/4 weeks of sick leave in the private sector. Know any companies providing four weeks of sick leave per year? No, I don't either. Look at it this way, which is more important. Retirement bonuses, or fulltime kindergarden?
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# 2013-01-23 23:09
If faculty and staff have had zero base salary increases over the past two years, how did the school treasurer go from making $100,288 in 2010 to $106,054 in 2011?
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# 2013-01-23 15:59
Per your letter, average cost per student is in line with the average for Ohio, but how many other district are receiving 53% of property taxes? You have closes buildings, eliminated positions, etc. I see not cuts to administrative positions. I see no cuts to sports. I see nothing even close to a responsible economic plan. 53% of my property taxes go to this school district. Enough is enough. Use the money where it should be used - education, instead of buying footballs and padding administrator salaries. Go back to school and learn how to live within a budget. VOTE NO!!!!!
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# 2013-01-23 16:39
Nicely written! I believe BG schools deliver a lot of bang for our buck, people need to start realizing what a great job they are doing! :)
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# 2013-01-24 12:11
Ahhhh bggirl,may I ask...What does your mummy and daddy do for a living?
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# 2013-01-23 16:50
Citizens are tired of giving out money to help the schools, and then have all the Administrators get raises. When are they going to learn that we are tired of this. Do we really need an Athletic Director at the Middle & High School? Never needed one before, that alone would save money, not to mention benifits & retirement.
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# 2013-02-02 13:01
Judy....Time is short. The tax levy will be on the ballot in April (early voting). Please talk to your friends and neighbors about what you have read on this thread. If they in turn talk to their friends, word will get out. Offer to drive them to the courthouse to vote NO! Thank you oldham.
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# 2013-01-23 17:15
I find it interesting that the Board did not mention the cashed in sick leave. According to the BGCS five year plan, located at http://fyf.oecn.k12.oh.us/genForecast.asp?IRN=43638&Format=HTML, for 2010-11-12, we will spend $1.3 MILLION on these retirement bonuses. Wow! That could have done a lot of good if spent on programs/tutors/full-time kindergarden for the kids!
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# 2013-01-25 16:01
BG Man - now we are getting to the hidden adgenda most people don't realize and that is the millions of dollars that are the undercurrent of taxdollars gone crazy by greed entitlement crowd. The most powerful Union on the planet has made sure it is all about tax money grab and little consideration of the kids or their education. It is time for the return of Ronald Reagan who dumped the Air Controllers and he can now dump all education union contracts and start over. The original mission of education was teaching the children not sucking the nipple of the taxpayers.
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# 2013-01-26 09:32
You don't really have much understanding of Ronald Reagan, do you? He had a much more complex view of education than that.

FYI: there is no "hidden agenda." The "hidden agenda" of teachers is to teach. That they should want to be compensated fairly and competitively, and in keeping with their training is only human.

Have you ever noticed that people who do not have much education seem to think that college degrees give people an "unfair" advantage over people who don't have them? Maybe if they were more educated...oh, never mind...
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# 2013-01-26 10:39
LMAO! Reagan would not have a chance with the current Right wing and would be labeled a Liberal! Just watched a video where ol' Ronnie supported unionism as "American" and denounced efforts to destroy unions. Oh..and he raised the debt ceiling too!
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# 2013-01-23 17:35
I went to the 5-year plan, too. How can we say we have expenses under control, when from 2010 to 2012, revenue from general property taxes went up 8.1%, revenue from income taxes went up 10.3%,and even after the state cuts TOTAL REVENUE increased by 2.1%. The problem was total expenses increased 6.8%. So if revenue goes UP, but expenses go up EVEN MORE, is that a spending problem or a funding problem?
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# 2013-01-23 19:09
33k is not much for a teachers salary.My problem is how education is funded.Property tax,and a special income tax are unfair.
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# 2013-01-24 08:36
When it is funded adequately on the state level, distributing funds more evenly and fairly, the local taxes don't have to compensate for as much. That's where the funding problem is located--and where there have been punishing cuts over the past several years.
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# 2013-01-24 12:54
Thank you Gov. Kasich!
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# 2013-01-25 09:36
And Kasich worshiped Richard Fuld.Kasich fooled Ohio voters,hate to say I told you's so..
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# 2013-01-25 08:34
Gee Lord Williams, I wonder who provides the State funding and how is that any different than local funding - it is still all our taxdollars. The funding needs to be even more on the local level and we need 3 levies - wages! - real operating - permanent improvements. Local control of pay is no different than working for a company where wages are based upon performance. Losing levies indicates poor performance or use of funds provided. Cuts recently are a result of the glut of money educators have sneaked under the radar over the last number of years. Regardless how your fearful leader counts unemployment the fact remains unemployment is huge including those who have stopped looking. Williams - you can't spend yourself out of debt - at least the entitlement greed patrol has jobs & benefits
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# 2013-01-26 09:37
Losing levies has nothing to do with poor performance. A school's academic performance has nothing to do with their popularity--look at Lake. But it will suffer if it is starved for funds. Certain things cost what they cost. The "glut of money" you reference is far from the truth.

You can't spend your way out of debt, true--but you also can't run a farm if you eat your seed corn. You can't cut your way into prosperity: look at the UK. Austerity has led to a triple-dip recession.
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# 2013-01-26 09:41
State funding pools a lot of money, allowing fair (or at least more fair) and less burdensome apportionment. If a state-level administrations cuts school funding, the difference is shifted onto the local district, the pain is felt more directly and more personally, and local school officials are made to go hat in hand to taxpayers for basic operating expenses.

It's also true that people who lack education, or whose experiences with education have been mediocre or poor, have a harder time understanding its value.
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# 2013-01-24 10:45
I agree. $33,000 is not much and probably prevents us from getting the best teacher candidates. Why not increase that to $35,000 to $40,000. The reason given to me by Board members is the union won't let them increase the starting pay without increasing everyone's pay! Once again, the union strikes!
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# 2013-01-24 11:27
You're onto something with this, Superman, and it is consistent with some of the things that have been floated by Arne Duncan and serious-minded education reformers on both "sides" of the political fence. But you may be overstating the real power of the unions in this case. Occasionally people blame the union when they are themselves unwilling to examine the problem more deeply or ruffle particular people's feathers--they blame it because it is an abstraction.
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# 2013-01-24 12:08
I agree with you Superman, and the board should revise the STEP INCREASE SYSTEM to no more than six. $35K for entry level, $45K for master's, $55K for master's w/10 yrs.,$65K for Master's w/20 yrs and Master Teacher at $75k. COLA each year of contract. BGCS has 28 or 29 steps at present (per S.E.R.B.).
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# 2013-01-25 13:39
Eliminate the ignorance that a degree provides better results as Step increases need to be eliminated. The pitance paid for healthcare by educators will get zero sympathy support from the real World as millions don't have jobs and many who have jobs today DON'T have healthcare. Degrees do not guarantee someones ability to teach - results are all that matters and why teachers and schools need to be liable when a person passes through school with great grades and is not able to make a living in their trained profession. It is that Union mantra that each level should be paid the same regardless of performance. Or if the starting pay is increased everyone should be increased - what a joke and you wonder what is wrong? The State does not mint money and the reason for less is lost jobs while all money comes from the same wallet!
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# 2013-01-26 09:45
Better training=better training. Cut the garbage of saying it doesn't.

Saying that teachers and schools need to be liable when a person has trouble finding a job is idiotic in the extreme. The burden for a person looking for a job is on that person--maybe that person has trouble applying the lessons learned in school to new contexts. And maybe the economy is just really tight right now.

The job of a teacher is to teach well, with as much personal attention to students as possible. But education catalyzes better outcomes for students; it doesn't guarantee them. It is an investment, with risks, not an assembly line at a factory.
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# 2013-01-26 10:42
Yeah..maybe we should just start hiring High School dropouts as Teachers..would only have to pay minimum wage! When our schools are rated "Excellent"..where is your evidence of "poor teaching"? Once again..spouting off with no facts to back you up....
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# 2013-01-26 11:03
I am still chuckling over Caron's assertion that it is ignorant to value degrees and credentials.

For once, man, do some research instead of reading your used toilet paper. Look at what students learn during these degree programs--specific courses focusing on specific expertise--and use your common sense to see if there is value in it.
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# 2013-01-24 12:47
"We have a funding problem, not a spending problem" is spot on.

No one within the schools has gotten a raise (and certainly not one over 2%) in years while they all pay more for their benefits. These are just facts people. You think the teachers you know are getting rich? And less teachers means more work and less attention to students.

Communities need to support schools with more funding because of the cuts in funding from the state, period.

The whining by the same 10 people on this feed is so predictable it's pathetic.
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# 2013-01-24 15:21
Help me understand, Steve, how the S&F are paying more for their benefits. According to the teachers' contract, they have paid the same for health care premiums over the past two contracts (two years each). That is four years without an increase, at 9% of the total health premium. Much less than the 30% average paid in the private sector.
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# 2013-01-24 20:47
Wrong...our health care premiums have went up with almost every contract in the 10 years i've been here. Check your info before you post.
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# 2013-01-25 07:10
I am beginning to see that their are two classes of anti-teacher posts. The ones that are just anti-teacher are ridiculous and easily dismissed. Superman and Oldham among others are more thoughtful, but it seems as if they get their info from the same few sources (Buckeye being foremost, but as I have pointed out elsewhere, it is flawed), and have not been looking closely at current contracts or the changes that have happened in the past couple years.
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# 2013-01-25 10:13
I have the contracts. The contribution amounts have not changed.
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# 2013-01-24 15:41
Steven, if only you had as much passion to take care of the kids as you do for your teacher friends!
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# 2013-01-24 18:06
Why do you think that supporting teachers is against the interests of kids. Who teaches the kids? What does money go to the schools for if not for instruction?
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# 2013-01-25 10:12
Simple example: If we did not payout over $400,000 for cashed in sick leave last year, we could afford full-time kindergarden. Handing tens of thousands of dollars to someone as they go out the door toward retirement, is not providing for instruction. If we eliminated the cashed in sick leave, it would not impact instruction one bit. Next question?
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# 2013-01-28 00:42
If teachers took their 15 sick days a year, it would COST the school district $1,500 to pay for substitutes. $1,500 times 30 years is $45,000 of taxpayers' dollars SAVED if teachers don't take sick days. You must think substitute teachers have the same impact for instruction as the regular teacher. You must think that teachers shouldn't be rewarded for saving taxpayers $45,000 plus interest over 30 years. Go ahead and eliminate the cashed in sick leave. Watch the school district COST for staff go WAY up because they'll be paying for substitute teachers. I'd say it would impact instruction quite a bit. Next question?
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# 2013-01-28 14:24
mustangfalcon you don't seem to UNDERSTAND. You(I assume you are a teacher)should only be using s-t for illness and of course doctors appointments. 15 days are too much, 7 days are more than enough per year. There is NO need for carry over to next year, if my insurance plan could be implemented. If you have a serious illness or injury not related to your job, you can be off up to 12 weeks WITH 100% PAY ( INSURANCE PAID FOR BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT). Need a longer period off, no problem you can go on long term disability at 80% pay. This long term dis. would be paid by YOU ! NEXT QUESTION?
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# 2013-01-30 00:13
oldham you don't seem to UNDERSTAND. Feel free to ASSume away. You've done an amazing job of that already with your posts. You're saying that 7 sick days per year is the norm in the private sector? Where's the data evidence? How many hours of sick leave do classified folks at BGSU earn per year? Does it accumulate? Your proposed seven sick days a year times $100 a day for a substitute times 30 years is STILL $21,000 (plus interest) of taxpayers' money saved if not used. That's not worth anything?? Besides the $ issue, my contention with "Taxpayer"'s comment was the impact of instruction. Having a substitute teacher ALWAYS impacts instruction. And ASSume what you want, but teachers should be rewarded for NOT using them.
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# 2013-01-30 09:46
That's the entitlement mentality of public sector employees. THIS MUST CHANGE! You, as a PUBLIC SECTOR employee should treat sick time like an insurance policy, it's there if you need it,don't abuse it. AND if you are found to abuse it, TERMINATION should be in order. THERE WILL BE NO REWARD AND THEREFORE NO RETIREMENT CASH-OUT OF SICK-TIME. BTW, I am not an A$$, I know what I'm talking about.
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# 2013-01-30 18:13
Actually, you don't show that you know a single thing about education at all! You're kidding right? Or just trolling?
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# 2013-01-31 11:51
Disgusted, I have lived in the BGCS district for over 40 years. I own multiple properties and pay my share of real estate taxes. What I see happening is an unsustainable increase in spending by this school district as well as other unionized public employees. I have no axe to grind with teachers, only the escalation of wages/benefits,i.e.retirement cash-out of unused sick-time at 50%.
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# 2013-01-31 16:45
25%..get your facts straight.
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# 2013-01-31 19:15
As an owner of multiple properties, you and your class of exploiters DEFINITELY do not pay your fair share by a long shot. You clearly have an issue with teachers if you think paying them like that is unsustainable.
A single individual owning multiple properties is unsustainable.

People like you disgust me.
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# 2013-01-31 23:53
Grind your axe with the facts, please. The percent is 25% for teachers, not 50%. Your claim of "What I see happening is an increase in spending by the school district" is patently false. Check the facts. One would think a person who has lived in the BGCS district for over 40 years and owns multiple properties would have the integrity to tell the truth instead of pontificating personal "feelings" as facts in an online forum.
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# 2013-01-24 20:48
The teachers have more passion for their kids than some of the parents do....fact.
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# 2013-01-25 09:54
I can agree with that ???.
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# 2013-01-25 09:53
steven,I have no problem raising the State income tax to replace the property,and special school income taxes.Or delegating more monies to education.Other then that lets do pay to play..
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# 2013-01-26 17:20
snapper....with all due respect, you are ok with RAISING the state income tax? No way! Over time the state income tax will be ratcheted down by Gov Kasich. This is his goal.Schools will be funded at the local level (m.o.) My concern (and many other taxpayers) is the rate of increase in salaries year to year by the board. Take a look at "total labor cost" 2005,2006,2007, 2008,2009,2010,2011 and 2012.You will be SHOCKED! Look at sick-time cash out at retirement for the same time period. AGAIN, YOU WILL BE SHOCKED!
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# 2013-01-26 18:14
Maybe the time will come when, do to the HIGH cost of sports,only academics will be funded by the taxpayer.
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# 2013-01-30 11:07
It should be apparent to anyone listening to our Governor what the problem is! He has called February "School choice month"..pushing his agenda for privatized schools for his buddies while cutting funding for our public schools. Education for profit? Yeah....Fox news heaven.
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# 2013-01-30 17:14
We will get around the union with charter schools. State money will follow the student. BTW, I hope we don't spend too much time on students who do not want to learn. Send them to Penta to learn a trade. Not everyone is college material.
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# 2013-01-31 11:22
God forbid we spend "too much time" on students. Funny..in public schools you blame the teachers for the kids that don't want to learn...in privatized education..it's the kids fault? The charter school ruse will ultimately not work..and the unions will remain intact..much to your Fascist dismay.
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# 2013-01-31 12:58
pk....I am not a Fascist, only a retiree on a fixed income trying to make due with my single monthly retirement check, plain and simple.
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# 2013-01-31 16:48
I honestly sympathize..we are all in the same boat during these rough economic times..however..hatred of unions and pinning the blame for all the State's financial woes on them..along with bashing Teachers..is misguided and wrong...and a popular thing to do here on these pages. We need a better way to fund education..period.
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# 2013-02-01 09:48
pk....that "better funding" you folks keep talking about is still tax dollars from Ohio residents.
BTW, I don't bash teachers, just your wage/benefits.
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# 2013-02-01 18:37
Not a Teacher..just a lowly Custodian.
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# 2013-01-31 19:17
Don't let him fool you, pk: he owns "multiple properties." making due with a single monthly retirement check...yeah right.

He's a bitter old man who does not want to see ANY public resources go to younger people.
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# 2013-01-31 23:56
I thought you owned multiple properties in Bowling Green. This is a "fixed retirement income"?
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# 2013-02-01 09:52
"Panel eyes change in retirement payouts" in today's (2-1-13)Seneca County newspaper, the Advertiser-Tribune. YES! The times, they are ah changin'!
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# 2013-02-01 10:22
oldham- doesn't an equal education put all students on a 'Firm Foundation' to be life long learners in whatever they wish to do? Why do you want to push more kids into trades, so you can pay them less to work on your properties?
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# 2013-02-02 12:49
Rick....when I talk about the student that does not want to be in school, I am referring to the "punk" type. On the order of the East Toledo types. Maybe BG has a few of these, usually they run in packs of three. BTW, I have 3 parcels, which includes my rather modest residence. I am by no means rich.
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# 2013-02-04 15:54
You have class elitism oozing out of this post. You truly are disgusting.

Must be nice to "own" 3 properties in the age of mass unemployment.

...East Toledo "types." What the hell does THAT mean?
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# 2013-02-04 19:18
"Punk" type? Does this mean anyone that doesn't look like you? Anyone young? Anyone Liberal? From the wrong part of town..you know..like East Toledo? And you Conservatives have the gall to brand Liberals as "elitist"? "Run in packs"? Good God man you are a walking stereotype of the intolerant, racist,self-serving, uninformed, Neocon that the MAJORITY of the people in this country are sick to death of! Good luck trying to ever win another election...
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