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BGSU faculty group blasts Mazey for planned cuts PDF Print E-mail
Written by HAROLD BROWN Sentinel City Editor   
Tuesday, 22 January 2013 11:55
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File photo. BGSU president Dr. Mary Ellen Mazey makes her way to the stage during a commencement ceremony at the Stroh Center in Bowling Green Ohio on December 15, 2012. (Photo: Enoch Wu/Sentinel-Tribune)
The Bowling Green State University Faculty Association this morning suggested that senior faculty, faculty senators and other campus leaders “publicly call for an end to the tyrannical incompetence of the (President Mary Ellen) Mazey and (Provost Rodney) Rogers administration.”
BGSU-FA was responding to a late Friday afternoon confirmation by Mazey of plans to reduce faculty employment by 100 by the start of fall semester in August. Rogers apparently talked about the issue earlier last week during a meeting of the BGSU Faculty Senate.
The university and BGSU-FA are in their second year of negotiations for a first contract for faculty.
The statement says Mazey “offered the disingenuous claim that these positions will come from attrition, retirements and the expiration of some one-year teaching contracts.”
BGSU-FA claims that chairs and directors were given a list of non-tenure track faculty whose contracts end this academic year and told to identify faculty to cut. “This mass termination is indicative of the Mazey administration’s lack of long-term vision and its continuously subpar top-down management.”
The union says the result will increase the student-to-faculty ratio, class sizes will increase and the variety of classes decline. “Despite Mazey’s marketing team’s spin to the contrary, students’ educational experience at BGSU will be diminished greatly,” the statement claims.
The university said Friday the move would save $5.2 million that can be directed to other priorities, including competitive salaries for faculty and staff.
BGSU-FA claims the latest administration salary and benefits proposals, when added up, do not cost BGSU any more than it pays out now to faculty and that BGSU faculty compensation will remain second to the bottom as compared to other public Ohio institutions.
“But the $5.2-million savings is suspiciously close to the $5 million number that BGSU officials have floated as the loss from state share of instruction under Ohio’s new funding plan,” the statement indicates. “In other words, Mazey may have decided that faculty alone should absorb any budgetary challenges. It’s certainly easier than cutting six-figure administrators, in-the-red athletics, expensive residence halls, luxurious renovations to the rec center, high-priced outside consultants, failed football bowl games, or Mazey’s  team of spin doctors which, as Mazey administration spending indicates, are her true priorities.”
The statement alleges the administration has “no intelligent strategy for handling the new state funding model or for recruiting students” and has made no efforts to address faculty pay or cost-of-living adjustments.
 

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# 2013-01-22 13:26
No one wants their job eliminated. But jobs everywhere are being adjusted to meet the needs of having a balanced budget. Let's face it people, our nation is not what it used to be five years ago. We are all in a down-fall and there seems to be no end. All budgets are in the red. But yet it seems that CEO's are not having to sacrifice much. What are people suppose to do for work? The only way to clean up our down-fall is to start over. Go back to wages across the board at rates of 30 Years ago. Are banks going to close? Yes. Is the stock market going to drop? Yes. How can anything change if we don't start somewhere. Everything is out-of-control. Lord help us all.
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# 2013-01-22 15:19
Well said "Sizzle"!!
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# 2013-01-22 23:53
I find it disgusting that the Mazey administration is essentially saying, "You want cost of living wages? Ok. Then we'll just fire 100 of your colleagues and pretend it was our only option. That'll put you in your place." It is such a manipulative and transparent ploy to make the BGSU-FA look bad. No one is saying creating a budget is easy - hard choices must be made - but don't you DARE pretend that 100 jobs had to be terminated to give faculty long overdue cost of living raises. Hey, Mazey, maybe stop hemorrhaging money in sports programs & unnecessary construction. Nice mansion, by the way. Oh, and I hope you're enjoying your recent raise. Mazey & her administration are ruining lives and driving BGSU into the ground. They have no concern for the aftermath of these decisions. It's time for Mazey to step down. For shame.
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# 2013-01-28 14:10
Quoting Disgusted:
"You want cost of living wages? Ok. Then we'll just fire 100 of your colleagues .

The "money" pie is only so large my friend". In order to dish out larger slices, some will be denied.
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# 2013-01-28 18:05
The setting of the size of the pie is a matter of choice, and choosing to do so by downsizing the faculty, by eliminating jobs that are not dead weight, but actually tend to have higher teaching loads than the jobs that are not being eliminated, means making a choice against small class size and against having the kind of course availability that can get BGSU students through in 4 years.
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# 2013-01-23 13:51
I support the BGSU-FA!
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# 2013-01-22 15:22
It's not just about the jobs that are being lost. Many of the jobs will simply vanish as people retire. The one-year contract teachers will, with some luck, find work elsewhere. The problem here is that this move by the administration risks a profound degradation in the quality of education at BGSU, and in the professional abilities of the other teachers who, while already working full scheduled, will be compelled to pick up the slack. And for the students who will find more of their required classes taught by inexperienced graduate students.
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# 2013-01-23 16:37
"On a one-year contract" doesn't mean temporary or short-term faculty. It often means long-term faculty with no protection against this sort of thing. I know people who have worked at BGSU for 15 years on these "one-year contracts." Mazey's implication that these are throw-away jobs/people is downright wrong. Many are cornerstones of their departments!
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# 2013-01-24 08:08
True
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# 2013-01-23 18:04
Obamacare is becoming a serious budget concern to the various administrations . No one will say it out loud, but they are staring at some devastating numbers with who they have to add to their healthcare in the upcoming year or two. Some of these moves are proactive preparation for the inevitable.
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# 2013-01-24 08:10
Obamacare actually has nothing to do with this. Full-time professors--even one-year contract professors--already have health insurance that is fully in compliance with the guidelines.

Adjunct professors were already limited to the calculated equivalent of less than 30 hours per week.

Nice try throwing something political at this in hoping it would stick.
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# 2013-01-22 13:37
And slowly the real agenda of the Union comes into view. So far they blast anything and everything that isn't putting money into their pockets. When their precious plans start to implode, now they are finally resorting to name calling to boot.

Since that is the bill of fare now, so be it. The Union is run by a bunch of flaming idiots that are so bent out of shape over money and delusions of entitlement they can't see straight. They would have every building or function at BGSU rot if it means a .001% boost in pay. Their leadership will destroy BGSU before they compromise. They will redirect away from the bottom line just as much as they accuse the administration of doing. They will attack anything and hurt those things at any cost if it serves their goals.
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# 2013-01-22 15:18
I don't see a problem with people expecting fair pay. Seriously, why would you think fair pay is such a horrible goal? Do you really want to promote a world where we're supposed to worship our employers NO MATTER WHAT? I can't stand the mindset that "job providers" can trample all over the people's hearts, minds and ethics simply because they provide low paying, thankless, no-opportunity-for-advancement work. (Think of the ridiculous moral compromise Ohio made allowing casinos under the guise of jobs! jobs! jobs!) Fair pay and safe (not hostile) working conditions are a foundation of the American expectation of the job market. BGSU faculty is already receiving rock bottom pay for their work.
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# 2013-01-22 20:31
I think, FunnyMoney, that many of the people posting here are speaking their pocket books, and transferring the perspective they might have on the local economy, and local school funding issues, even their ideas about K12 unions, onto the universities. What they don't realize is this is the wrong frame of reference. University professors don't compare themselves with others, say, in wood county, or even with UT, but with professors working all over the country. They are hired after NATIONAL searches, and their peers are getting hired at private institutions as well. Many come from Ivy League and other top-rated institutions. That BGSU already pays so little within just Ohio puts BGSU at a hiring disadvantage that this move will only intensify.
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# 2013-01-22 15:20
This is a shameful and ignorant post. You understand nothing of the relationship between teaching, research, and staffing, and are just using this as an excuse to flail about a union that you also don't understand anything about.
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# 2013-01-23 18:05
Just think the whack job ZImmerman who help set up this union wanted to be a Congressman. Dodged that one.
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# 2013-01-24 08:12
Her name is Zimmann. She is not a whack job. And the union really has very little to do with this.

This is actually not a partisan political matter, nice try to make it one. Unless you basically hate college professors because they tend to be more liberal than you want them to be.
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# 2013-01-26 16:02
Zimmanwomen was a pro union hack, you are so right.
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# 2013-01-27 13:29
Is it possible in your universe for anyone to be pro-union and NOT be a "hack?"

You are really pulling your information about the BGSU-FA out of fantasy land.
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# 2013-01-22 18:56
Excellent points! They are reaching for anything and name calling to boot. It is a sad state of affairs for the union, who like a wounded animal, is vicious in its dying throes.
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# 2013-01-23 08:18
In case you were unaware of the point, the BGSU-FA was formed only in 2011, and the faculty have been working without a contract since before that. The BGSU-FA was put on hold during the SB5 fight, which would have liquidated it 6 months after forming.

The issues between the faculty and administration strongly pre-date and thus have little of substance to do with the unions.
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# 2013-01-22 20:23
Are you serious. those idiots are the 1 that agreed to teach us with all these problems and not leave. You want to speak up for president Mazey, how about why she's only talking about getting rid of 100 faculty why not anybody in the administration. In a few years are degrees will not be worth the paper they're printed on.
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# 2013-01-22 14:14
Go BGSU-FA! Mazey and her team better buckle up. Things just got real. The statements in this story expose the seriously misguided nature of the Mazey administration's long-term (but short-sighted) vision for BGSU. As an alumnae and longtime BG resident, Mazey's terrible reputation and track record are extremely concerning. I don't want our University stuck with the stigma of being a school where money is held in higher esteem than anything else, even students. Make no mistake, this attitude will not go unnoticed by the intellectual community. If Mazey continues these trends, BGSU has no hope of obtaining high level students and instructors in the future. What does all this mean? That those of us with BGSU degrees and work experience will be cast with the reputation of being sub-par. Mazey, check yourself before you wreck yourself.
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# 2013-01-22 14:46
If BGSU needs money, then why not get rid of the mansion. I am sure if they sold it and downsized where the president of the university lives, that would benefit not only the university in helping with costs but also maybe help find the money to keep some of these employees.
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# 2013-01-22 15:22
Quoting Amanda:
find the money to keep some of these employees.

Amanda....the "employees" are NOT needed!
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# 2013-01-22 20:33
And you make this highly presumptive statement on what factual grounds? What do you know specifically about what is needed and what is not?

Your moniker suggests you have so much contempt for college professors that you really don't have anything serious to contribute to the discussion.
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# 2013-01-23 18:06
Or just get rid of some of the useless programs like Woman's and Ethnic studies.
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# 2013-01-24 08:15
Who are you to determine they are useless? It sounds like you have a social and political axe to grind. And, for the record, there is no such plan coming from the administration, because the administration does not feel they are "useless." The staffing for these interdisciplina ry programs actually comes to an extent from multiple departments--English, history, sociology, and American Culture studies that you either could not object to or are valued for having unique respect and value. Whether you respect them or not really doesn't matter.
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# 2013-01-26 16:04
American Culture studies needs to stay!!! I love me my Starbucks and where will they get a quality barista if that program goes?
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# 2013-01-28 09:51
MMMMMMMMM starbucks.
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# 2013-01-24 18:42
Somebody obviously hates the idea of the empowerment of women and minorities. What a coward.

I didn't major in either of those at BGSU, but I took classes in both and still learn from the material to this very day....and I'm a white male!
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# 2013-01-26 16:03
Time to get the axe out and start chopping at the dead programs that dont produce. I agree, why do we have EVERY state school producing grads in Womens and Ethnic studies? What purpose does this serve? Let's pick one or two schools to fund and chop the rest.
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# 2013-01-26 23:44
SOMEBODY has a hatred complex, eh?
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# 2013-01-28 14:01
Sounds like a good plan to me. The redundancy in these programs is silly.
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# 2013-01-28 18:09
Do some research. Most of the professors staffing these programs are housed in other departments such as English, Sociology, foreign languages, and History, which I presume (maybe incorrectly) that you would NOT want to eliminate. These are also common interdisciplina ry majors at most universities.

Note also: the president's plan does not include targeting these majors. That's just your agenda.

Or do you feel that there are not enough heads rolling?
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# 2013-01-26 12:30
Maybe dump the majors that don't lead to jobs for the undergrads.
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# 2013-01-27 07:53
The idea that the name of one's major must be the name of one's career is one of the biggest lies you see repeated in these forums.

Graduates with interdisciplina ry humanities majors have a lot of options on graduating: law, international non-profits, foreign service, even med if they have a strong science minor. Only a very few go on to graduate study in their named fields, and those who are able to obtain funding to do so at prestigious universities around the country benefit BGSU's or UT's reputation. Students can document their ability to analyze and write about complex material and to think laterally--skills that are too rare among graduates who cleve to John's "just the facts, ma'am" approach.
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# 2013-01-28 09:51
You obviously live the academia bubble. What a joke.
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# 2013-01-28 11:20
So you think it is a joke to think that writing, complex analytical, and critical thinking skills are needed outside the academy?

What do YOU do for a living that you don't need these things?
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# 2013-01-28 17:46
Um, the joke is on you, especially since you never got that degree.
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# 2013-01-29 10:04
Ah yes the tried and true anyone who disagrees with a member of academia must be stupid defense. Usually followed by the nana-a-booboo my IQ is higher then yours retort.

The good news is CW and Brian are just the type of faculty who will be slashed by these two glorious institutions as they move forward on reform and cut the entitle minded dead weight.
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# 2013-01-29 16:37
I am not a BGSU faculty, I'm an alum, and am very concerned about the future quality of my alma mater.

The entitlement is entirely a parcel of the off-campus anti-education crowd of elitists who assume they have any idea on what value a university education actually carries. "Concerned" demonstrates this point by showing the cards in his hand indicating a lack of insight into education whatsoever. A sign of total ignorance and a total disconnect from learning or the learning process.
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# 2013-01-29 23:48
Well, you are attacking academia and mocking people for being smart, so your academic credentials are fair game.

Since you didn't answer my question or contradict Brian, is it then true that you never graduated from college?

Not getting a degree is not a sign that one is stupid. Lincoln never went, but he was one of our most learned presidents. But mocking college after you failed at it IS stupid.

Steve Jobs never graduated from Stanford, but expressed his appreciation for the courses in the humanities he audited AFTER DROPPING OUT--but I suppose Steve Jobs was just in lala land, and knows much less about these things than Hannity, or Limbaugh, or Concerned.
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# 2013-01-22 16:31
If BGSU needs fewer faculty members then logic dictates fewer administrators are needed. I would hope the next press release from the administration announces a reduction of a comparable percentage of administrators. If 5.1 million will be saved by the faculty reductions then imagine what another 5 million in administrative reductions would do for the financial stability of the University.
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# 2013-01-22 17:38
Fascinating issue, really. At the core is decades of mismanagement and a sense of entitlement by students, faculty, staff, and administrators. To be sure, all parties (except administrators, of course) will be harmed. Tax payers won't get a break and the education is sure to decline. It would be interesting to learn how the recent cutbacks have affected student performance. One might expect that larger classes and an open enrollment policy that necessarily admits lesser qualified students would result in lower grades and lower graduation rates. Is this the case? If not, why not?
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# 2013-01-22 22:47
Anecdotally, it is indeed the case.

A basic critical issue--and it is an issue with the UT situation as well, which is in some respects far worse--is writing. We hear from employers that they are disappointed in the quality of student writing and in their inability to "think laterally." Class size directly impacts the ability to teach writing, and to assign it. Smaller classes are the first casualty in these actions. Also casualties are the specialty classes that serve the best students. Outside institutions often measure the value of a college on the basis of its most impressive students. When BGSU can no longer serve them, it can no longer offer the value that is its best potential.
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# 2013-01-22 19:52
The State cut $5 million because they have no money. The University has raised tuition significantly and often in the last 15 years. The faculty of the University wants more money. Students have to borrow more for college because parent's salaries have been reduced or they are possibly out of work. Jobs now pay less, so students have a tougher time paying back student loans. Many school districts, city pool organizations, and in 2013 the Federal Gov't will be asking for more tax dollars. The price of goods is now higher due to higher gas prices and a more global market. The dollar is weakening because the USA is printing money too fast. Pres. Obama wants to spend more of the tax payer's money. Republicans want to cut the budget. No one wants be the one to take a cut. Are we sure we are at the level we think we are?
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# 2013-01-22 20:19
You notice the only cuts are too faculty not administration. Which is the same number of falcuty.
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# 2013-01-22 22:03
First of all the University President's house was purchased by and funded by the foundation, I. E. Private donations. Secondly, the days of professors sitting around pontificating in the name of intellectual discussions are gone. I know several professors in the College of Business who teach 2 classes per semester and get the summers off. Of course, if we get really desperate, we could eliminate the puppeteer professor in the theater department! Yes, BGSU has a professor that teaches nothing but the highly called for skill of puppeteering!
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# 2013-01-23 08:23
BG Citizen, your attack on that particular professor is unwarranted, but reflects the wrong-headedness of your attack. I can't speak for the business school, but you presume BGSU professors are deadweight doing useless things. That particular professor is also a curator of the Henson foundation in Atlanta, bringing prestige back to BGSU. He has also designed productions, taught history classes, and film classes for years. He is one of the hardest working people there. Puppetry is simply his area of research, and he brings a lot of perspective of traditions from around the world and works closely and compassionately with students in a specialty not always found in fine arts departments. Shame.
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# 2013-01-23 15:35
Bravo, CW.
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# 2013-01-23 14:55
BG Citizen, You seem to misunderstand the complex role of the university in society. Your disparage one professor because you believe the skills he teaches have no value, by which I think you mean no market value. While it is true that some things taught at a university are translatable into skills suitable for the market, there is a long, long history of universities also teaching subjects and skills that might not have market value but might still have value in some other sense. If you really want universities to focus only on teaching to skills that are useful in the market, than I suggest you get comfortable with the idea of living in world where things like poetry, art, literature, and, yes, even critical thinking, are viewed as useless luxuries. I hope you enjoy that world. I find it terrifying.
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# 2013-01-24 07:30
Complete agreement with everything JL writes. And, everything has a market value, in its proportion and in its niche. Universities function in part to provide students access to opportunities that go beyond what is self-evident within their communities. Many enter school thinking "I'm just going to get my business or marketing degree and get out," and discover worlds in which they can truly excel and make contributions for more significant than if they had kept to plan A. And there are others who keep to plan A but benefit and become more effective--especially with "lateral thinking" and the ability to deal with complex situations--by virtue of the electives they take. People who did not have that experience should not be denying it to others.
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# 2013-01-23 17:49
PS -- Professors often have the summers "off" because their contracts are for 9 months. Would you work 12 months if your contract was for only 9? That said, most professors spend their time "off" working on research, serving on committees, and taking care of other service responsibilitie s. In other words, they often work for free during the time that they are not on contract.
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# 2013-01-25 07:42
And professors who are not productive in their time "off"--by performing and publishing research, etc.--are rewarded with non-renewal of contracts and non-promotion, and denial of tenure.
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# 2013-01-26 16:05
Time to start making decisions who needs to perform and publish and unfund the rest.
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# 2013-01-27 07:55
The publish and performance rules are contained in the contracts. It is not for you to decide. And, no way on this planet are there "too many" faculty at BGSU. The faculty-student ratio at the school is already on the high side. UT already had one of the worst in the state (so it is fortunate that the ratios and minimum enrollments publicized in the Blade are not actually going to be implemented as stated).
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# 2013-01-22 22:07
The positive experiences I have had at the university are only because of my collaboration with the faculty. One faculty member in particular was especially life changing and to think that future students won't get to collaborate with this faculty member is depressing. Graduating from BGSU will mean nothing in a few years, having no prestige due to a lack of experienced faculty. I hope we can find a way to strengthen the faculty's influence.
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# 2013-01-22 22:14
As an alumnus, I am concerned about the financial mismanagement of BGSU in recent years. Decisions are made by administrators who are only concerned with keeping up appearances and approved by trustees who live in other parts of the state. BGSU spends around $10 million per year on sports (almost all football), just spent $40 million on the Stroh center and now is laying off faculty to save money. When it comes to keeping our University solvent, we must place academics over athletics. We must take more responsibility for our University. I am starting a petition to stop this reduction in the faculty and add faculty representation to the board of trustees. I am not faculty, nor am I affiliated with the union, I simply don't want a degree from a defunct university. Email me if you are interested in helping. Brettwilliams0@ gmail.com
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# 2013-01-23 08:26
The problem is the importation of a short-term for-profit model that is very popular with people in the business community who have little personally invested in the university and little knowledge of the world of knowledge, a model that is completely inappropriate for a university. Universities are about investments in future possibilities--the ability of the individual student to do great things, and even the average student to have a solid and credible portfolio of work that can be used to catalyze future job opportunities. It is inherently risky, and it is a non-profit for a reason.
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# 2013-01-23 18:07
As long as you have entitlement minded critical thinkers like CW milking the system education is doomed. Just get the machete out and start clear cutting.
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# 2013-01-24 08:20
How am I "milking the system"? I teach 500 students a year without assistance, do research, and serve on national-level panels in my discipline, and still have time to flick you away with my little typing finger.

Why is "critical thinking" bad?

It is entirely INappropriate to use the word "entitlement" to describe this situation. You are trying to shoe-horn the university to fit your tiny little petty conception of the political world, and I am sorry, but it just won't work.
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# 2013-01-24 10:04
So, presumably, you don't think the administration's plan goes far enough... and you would "clear cut" people that President Mazey's administration has no intention of eliminating, including tenured professors in fields you dislike or personally don't see the value of, regardless of how productive they are or what their reputations as teachers or mentors may be. Am I right?
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# 2013-01-24 10:07
Interesting that you associate critical thinking with being "doomed." I would think we would be doomed without it.
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# 2013-01-24 16:13
Quoting Concerned:
ENTITLEMENT MINDED critical thinkers like CW"..

RIGHT ON TARGET my friend!
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# 2013-01-24 17:38
As I asked "concerned," exactly what is "entitlement minded" about me?

And what the heck is wrong with "critical thinking?"

Isn't that what university educations are about?
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# 2013-01-24 18:43
Reactionary quack.

We see the cries of your dying anti-education ideology.
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# 2013-01-26 16:05
They think the whole critical thinking is what employers want ... what a joke.
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# 2013-01-26 23:45
Right: more non-thinking robots for the factories and fast-food joints. Lovely future you imagine, fascist. Count me out along with the majority of your community and species, tool.
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# 2013-01-27 08:00
It's evidently not what YOU want. You just want unquestioning sheep. You want all of society to do what it is told and never question their "betters" in management. You have said so many, many times; the thing you were most gleeful about with SB5 is that it would deprive teachers of discretion over how and what they teach in the classroom. And it is what Try getting a job at Google or Microsoft or for a financial analyst firm without critical thinking skills, or the ability to write complex reports.

What is your definition of "critical thinking," really, that you find it such a bad thing?
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# 2013-01-23 18:54
I'm not knowledgeable enough to make a firm argument against Mazey, but here's what I can give.
From experience, it is far easier to come away from a smaller class with more knowledge than it is coming from a larger class. Teacher-student relationships are incredibly important, and are hard won when the teacher has to consider 300 other students. And it's so disappointing when a class you want to take (or need to!) is cancelled just because the enrollment is too small.
There's these things called 'ear-marks' that get me all worked up. I don't understand WHY money is ear-marked for one thing, and must be used by such-and-such a date. Before firing anyone, can't we find a way to consider the people that give the University money to remove the restrictions on it's use? There are so many other places it can be used!
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# 2013-01-24 08:21
An eloquent and thoughtful response, and excellent suggestion.
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# 2013-01-24 11:54
Surely the members of the faculty that voted for a union had to realize that they were going to put adjunct and one-year contract instructors out of a job. Did they really think the university would allow the faculty to maintain their 1-2 or 2-2 course loads?

The faculty are going to be teaching 3-3 or...wait for it...a 4-4 load. So that means that fewer adjuncts and one-year contracts will be required.

While the majority of the 100+ positions will not be filled, some will and they will be allocated to the departments that need additional faculty. So if the Popular Culture department is losing three faculty due to retirements, one of those positions could be moved over to the Math department. This new Math prof will teach 4 fall and 4 spring courses while his counterpart might have taught 1 fall/2 spring.
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# 2013-01-24 13:02
About time the faculty has a Union.
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# 2013-01-24 13:47
Faculty do not need to apologize for wanting to make more money. BGSU is NOT in any sort of financial crisis. These cuts are a choice made by administrators. As far as I am concerned, any marginally competent instructor contributes 10 times more to the mission of the university (education) than does an upper-level administrator.

President Mazey makes nearly as much as the president of the United States and lives rent free in a mansion. It is a disgrace that she and her minions are forcing others to suffer and undermining the quality of education at BGSU.
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# 2013-01-24 14:05
Never thought I would agree with CW; however, as a BGSU employee, I know exactly how vital professors are to their respective departments. We often ask professors to "step it up a notch" and take on additional classes because we have students wait-listed, asking for specific classes, etc. and professors do almost every time! If we cut these same professors, reduce class offerings, and increase class sizes we are doing a HUGE disservice to our students. During my many years on campus, I have witnessed firsthand the expansion of administrative staff, the significant increases in administrative salaries, and yet the faculty and staff are underpaid and under-appreciated; typically taking drastic cuts every time there is a budget shortfall. How about making some cuts in the administrative staffing levels for a change?
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# 2013-01-24 18:33
I am thinking about transferring from BGSU due to them getting rid of 100 jobs.. We pay so much already for very little... Can't get in this class, they don't offer this class only Fall semster, they cost of attending BGSU just keeps going up and the class size also keeps going up.. I don't want a class of 300 I want smaller class sizes..
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# 2013-01-24 18:39
I am a former Falcon and now a resident of this county. I have read how the numbers are down all over the country at four year colleges. Everyone is using colleges like Owens, it is cheaper, smaller classes and the professors understand that most people work so they can go to school. I have attended both BGSU and a C.C. And can say I enjoyed both but got more out of a class at the C.C. I don't want anyone to be out of a job so I think BGSU need to trim the fat in other areas. Maybe lowering the price of a four year degree would help? More students more money? BGSU has it's faults but is still an amazing school. This could have major ramafactions on the local economy. Let's all keep in mind that hundreds of thousands of dollars could be lost to bussinesses and taxes collected by BG city. This will have a wide spread trickle down affect.
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# 2013-01-25 12:22
Why is it that every time college's downsize, it is ALWAYS faculty? One never sees the administration's number downsized. During the last 30 years, almost every institution has downsized faculty numbers while increasing administrative positions. So, more administrators to oversee fewer faculty. Sounds brilliant, right?
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# 2013-01-26 09:12
And you have the Stockholm Syndrome sheep in Wood County thinking that the administrators (the educational equivalents of corporate managers) are always the "good guys" and want more of them. Whereas the professors are those evil outsiders who import those liberal ideas and critical thinking skills that upend "traditional values" and say things that are different from the Fox News propaganda they drink in like mother's milk. Oh, and they have a faculty union, and since unions are the root of all evil, they must be evil, too. Am I right, Jeff Thompson, BGSU72, Eric, Concerned?
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# 2013-01-26 21:03
Staffing cuts have been made to Classified and Administrative [not to be confused with Administrators] Staff in the past two years.
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# 2013-01-25 17:56
I am an alumnus. I think what is happening at BGSU is a disgrace. The mansion that Mazey lives in and her over $370,000 per year salary could be adjusted to help the university. BGSU has changed since I was there. They are building a Student Health Center and constantly calling me for money for scholarships. I used to give money freely. That will no longer happen. They are not able to manage their budget without the elimination of $5.2 million and 100 faculty is ridiculous. If you look (public record) at what the administration is making compared to the average worker, the $5.2 million becomes easy to find. Perhaps Dr. Mazey would like to give up her very large and comfortable home and health care benefits. Those are things that Adjunct faculty and those that she is letting go do not have.
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# 2013-01-26 16:07
As an alumni I dont give a dime, they dont need it. As long as they have money to waste on dumb programs like Women's Studies, fund liberal agendas and just pour money down the drain I wont give a cent.
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# 2013-01-26 22:22
John, seriously? BGSU isn't a trade school. Don't be such a bully. Maybe you wouldn't be so grumpy all the time if you took a break from attacking everyone. :) We get it, you don't donate. Fine. You do your thing, we do ours. What's the problem? Sure, you're allowed your opinion, but bullying the Women's Studies Dept isn't the same as simply having your personal p.o.v. BTW, Women's Studies are vital to our world. Don't you have a mother? Wife? Daughter? Girlfriend? If you want them to have real opportunities in their lives, then you're a feminist too. I mean that. If you want women to be successful and happy - and to enjoy political, social, and economic equality to men - then you're a feminist. Unless you just hate all women, in which case we'll just say a little prayer for you.
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# 2013-01-26 23:47
You should have failed. What were you, an ROTC business college fratboy? OF COURSE you don't want cultural studies because you HAVE NO CULTURE! I get it now after reading your stupid posts. SOMEBODY couldn't pass certain classes.
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# 2013-01-28 13:16
How could you not pass those classes? They were a joke.
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# 2013-01-28 17:48
Apparently with posts like yours, people DID fail. Talk about a joke!
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# 2013-01-28 18:10
So you took them, "Concerned?" Which ones? What made them a joke?
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# 2013-01-26 23:48
Bitter about that low GPA Johnny?
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# 2013-01-27 08:02
The singular is "alumnus."

BTW, John, Women's Studies is not being targeted by the administration, so take your reactionary axe-to-grind elsewhere.
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# 2013-01-29 13:08
Can The Sentinel please limit Christopher Williams posts? He is doing more damage to the union reputation then any anti union critics could possibly do!
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# 2013-01-29 16:42
I'm disgusted that many posters on this website represent such ignorance and lack of insight that they want to censor a professor because they are afraid of his views and can't process them.

These isolated and scared anti-education people are an extreme minority in our community, and are overrepresented on this website. Apparently they only want the 1st Amendment and sent-trib access to apply to them and their backward ideas alone.

Sad.
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# 2013-01-29 20:06
I think it's great that CW posts so much. It's great for the everyone to see how an entitlement minded liberal professor thinks and how they are at the root of the educational collapse.
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# 2013-01-30 07:55
Define "educational collapse"?

What on earth is "entitlement-minded" about anything I have said?

Aren't you just trying to import partisan talking points into something that doesn't have anything to do with them?

Is "critical thinking" code for something else in your mind? You think critical thinking--which is the very definition of what a college education is about--is a bad thing?

I'm not in the union, I am not talking about the union, therefore how could I have been responsible for hurting its reputation? Maybe, "Proud," the union has a "reputation" in your own mind that has more to do with the notion of unions in general than anything specific in the BGSU-FA.
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# 2013-01-30 09:27
Let him post away and see the inner working of a liberal educator.
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# 2013-01-30 11:34
So, if talk about the value of developing critical thinking skills, the ability to write, the ability to think analytically about the complexities of the world--all of which are the central missions of a college education--I am somehow self-evidently demonstrating the lack of value of a university education? Curious thought. Please explain?
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# 2013-01-30 11:40
At this point, I am going to simply call out the right-wing anti-education posters. I thought about writing an LTE, but it would be a waste. "Ashamed" is right. You are a tiny minority. But here is how I see it: you somehow perceive that a main reason why there are any liberals or political moderates at all in Wood County is because of the university, because they teach things you don't approve of (feminism, climate change, non-tea-party history, etc.). You are not interested in understanding why they do this, what the admin is actually doing, nor are you interested in the facts about how destructive exploding class size will be. You just think that belittling professors will make your own world view--the view of college dropouts like Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck--more legitimate. It's pathetic.
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# 2013-03-26 09:08
I am furious that BGSU (board members) are allowing Dr. Mazey to ruin this great institution! As an Alumnist it makes me sick that she is not only after at least 100 of these jobs but also is flipping the Alumni Association upsidedown as well. People need to take a close look at what her motives are, she has no care for great Alumni and the well being of people that have worked there and cared for BGSU.
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