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Tuesday, 06 November 2012 11:35
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File photo. BGSU faculty members make their feelings known over their lack of a contract during a BGSU board of trustees meeting on September 28th, 2012. (Photo: J.D. Pooley/Sentinel-Tribune)
The Bowling Green State University Faculty Association Monday filed an unfair labor practice charge against the BGSU Board of Trustees and the university administration.
“The reason for this filing is straightforward: the administration has violated state law by unreasonably delaying and refusing to give the Faculty Association basic information, including information about benefit plans,” Chief Negotiator Candace Archer wrote in an email sent to members late Monday afternoon.
Archer said law requires this information be provided so that the union can make proposals on benefits.
“Finalizing a mutually beneficial contract with the BGSU-FA is a top priority for Bowling Green State University, BGSU spokesperson David Kielmeyer said this morning. “The university has been negotiating in good faith and will continue to do so. In keeping with our agreement with the BGSU-FA to negotiate at the bargaining table and not through the media, we cannot comment further on the negotiations,” he said.
Archer said “We would prefer to settle this issue without resorting to a ULP charge because these hearings can be lengthy and divert our attention away from finishing this contract, but the information is required to make accurate proposals and write fact-finding briefs. We have received assurances for months that the information is ‘in process’ or ‘we’ll have it next week’ and we have waited patiently.”
Archer also informed membership that the BGSU-FA will make the administration’s proposals available to members. Until now the union had agreed to keep the proposals private. For legal reasons only members can receive the proposals.
“I have been receiving messages from faculty who have been told by administrators that the FA’s communications are lies, and that we are misrepresenting the Mazey Administration’s proposals on post-tenure review, promotion, tenure and reappointment, salary and benefits, and many other issues. To put to rest these accusations, I have consulted with our attorney on the issue of releasing the administration’s proposals to our members,” Archer wrote.
Archer also said BGSU-FA has openly shared its proposals, which are available at http://bgsu-fa.org/wp/bargaining/.
 

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# 2012-11-06 11:47
It's good to see the unions up to their old tricks.
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# 2012-11-06 12:40
Yes, it's good to see organized workers advocating for their legal rights, isn't it?
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# 2012-11-06 17:27
You say legal, I say thuggery.
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# 2012-11-06 20:17
Yeah, what thugs. I mean, wanting your contract to be negotiated in a timely manner? Wanting your salary to keep up with the rate of inflation? That's totally the same thing as thievery.
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# 2012-11-06 23:14
Quoting BGSU72:
You say legal, I say thuggery.

yest, of course it is thuggery when workers take on the rich and powerful. By that logic, the patriots in 1776 were thugs for going after King George.

And by the way - negotiating for 2 1/2 years on a first contract cannot be, under any stretch, the fault of the BGSU faculty union.
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# 2012-11-07 23:41
Quoting BGSU72:
You say legal, I say thuggery.


But money is free when it comes out of the sky! What?! The sky is not made of middle class students and their families? I like how these union members act like they stand up for the middle class, but want to stick it to the University and students at every turn.
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# 2012-11-08 08:23
If you actually studied the issue, you would see that the faculty union is more about their role in governance and discretion to provide quality instruction to students than about salary. And it certainly is NOT about "sticking it to the students at every turn."
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# 2012-11-09 11:33
So basically they want to tell their bosses what to do.
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# 2012-11-09 14:58
No. They have been hired because they are experts in their fields and know about what works and what doesn't in education. BGSU boasts one of the largest and most effective schools of education in the country (the music education program was recently the fourth largest nationally). It only serves to reason that administrators would work in partnership with faculty to achieve ends, not dictate to faculty and make them feel that they have to take whatever crumbs are offered or leave. When you are not competitive in the material aspects of the job, then having a stake in the game is the one thing that can be offered as a means of building for the future. That is what the faculty are fighting for.
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# 2013-02-07 00:32
Be honest. Everyone wants to tell their bosses what to do. That's not the issue. BGSU got less money from the state this year than many other Ohio universities, & the entire amount appears to be coming from faculty salaries, rather than being spread more equitably. Moreover, there are better ways to make cuts than eliminating 11% of the faculty, which will adversely affect some programs more than others. Smaller programs with fewer tenured faculty will suffer more & students and faculty do not seem to have had adequate input into this decision. Administrators bear more responsibility than anyone else for the slashing of BGSU's funding, but they are not suffering the financial impact. Instead of giving a knee-jerk reaction to unions, you may want to look into the lack of fairness here.
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# 2012-11-06 14:24
I don't know what they expected when they unionized, but you could have seen this coming. The University isn't about to just fold their tents because the vote when the Unions way. I wonder if a state-wide ranking or grade system for university professors could be created. Might be an interesting way to rate pay across the whole university system. Maybe create a state-wide system of hiring faculty, effectively taking the contract/pay/benefits away from individual schools. Of course that comes a step or two closer to a true "University of Ohio" I'd like to avoid. Unless schools banded together to hire faculty collectively on their own.
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# 2012-11-06 15:47
This would never happen and should never happen. The individual campuses have particular strengths and particular dynamics, and with the statewide directive to avoid duplication of specialist programs it would make even less sense to talk about a state-wide system. A ranking or grading system such as you propose would also make no sense, because of the uniqueness of each campus and each department. Plus, salary competitiveness is driven by a market that also includes universities nationwide, including private institutions. If Ohio were, for instance, to set a salary level lower than that of other states, then it could accelerate the "brain drain" that already exists with respect to BGSU and threatens its competitiveness on the faculty level compared to other schools.
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# 2012-11-09 11:34
There are lines our the door of quality professors looking to teach at BGSU. Stop giving tenure to these bums and kick some to the curve who complain.
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# 2012-11-09 14:59
That is untrue. You are sticking to your talking points without thinking through the possible value of what I am saying. The people who are "complaining" are not "bums" but people who have given their lives to the school and the community.
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# 2012-11-06 17:29
Here is an idea. Every time the union cries about something deny another professor tenure. Let's be honest, you have applicants lined up around the block to work here. If the union wants to play hard ball, then play hard ball.
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# 2012-11-06 22:37
You have an awful lot of contempt for the work professors do. Tenure decisions are based on the value of their scholarship, and their work in the classroom. The faculty union has been in existence only a little over a year. Professors come up for tenure after 6 years. The qualifications for tenure are also compared against standards set at other universities, public and private, union and non-union.

The union has absolutely NOTHING to do with this, but your anti-union obsession simply makes you seem petty and ignorant.
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# 2012-11-06 18:29
These people really look like they're struggling to put food on the table ... glad they're thinking of the cost of tuition to the students and not just of themselves.
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# 2012-11-06 20:20
Yeah, how selfish of faculty to want to make a decent living. It's not the construction of gratuitous buildings on campus that's squeezing students. Certainly not the decline in government funding. Not allocating more funds than necessary to, say, put flat screen TVs all over the Student Union. It's those darn professors, thinking they should be compensated fairly for working what is generally much more than a 40-hour week. Darn them!
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# 2012-11-07 23:36
http://buckeyeinstitute.org/higher-ed

Tough row you hoe with 198 of your peers having made $100K in 2010. I'm sure that number is well over 200 now. Crocodile tears all around.
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# 2012-11-08 08:25
Many of those are department chairs, have brought in grants to the institution, or work in high-salary departments like business and marketing. Also, in a university with 25,000 students, 198 is not as many as it seems.
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# 2012-11-06 22:40
You clearly do not know anything about faculty salaries. BGSU has the lowest or near the lowest salaries at each stage of the process-- assistant professor, associate, full--of any university in the state of Ohio. To build a faculty, a school needs to offer a competitive package to retain and recruit quality faculty. The contested union issues are ones of governance, NOT of salary/benefits. But you apparently only have the cartoonish one-size-fits-all view of unions propagated by corporate anti-union zealots who are themselves completely ignorant of how higher ed works.
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# 2012-11-07 23:50
Quoting Christopher Williams:
You clearly do not know anything about faculty salaries. BGSU has the lowest or near the lowest salaries at each stage of the process-- assistant professor, associate, full--of any university in the state of Ohio. To build a faculty, a school needs to offer a competitive package to retain and recruit quality faculty.


Let's be honest. There's a documented overproduction of Ph.D's graduating from college every year in many disciplines. This is documented by your peers, not some right-wingers. When you have an oversupply of a good, the value of that good decreases as competition increases. See below article for information which rightly points out that salaries should be adjusted to the market:

http://chronicle.com/blogs/innovations/too-many-ph-d-’s-and-professionals/28236
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# 2012-11-08 08:28
This is true, but out of context here: no matter how many PhDs are out there, if you have the lowest salaries in a state that has lower salaries in another state, you are hard-pressed to compete for the top talent out there. And even harder-pressed if it is perceived that the faculty are not given much discretion in shaping their instruction or their departments by administrators. Quality matters, not just the credential. A lot of those PhDs are fairly mediocre or do not fit the particular needs of particular departments at particular institutions.
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# 2012-11-09 11:30
So it's all about the money.
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# 2012-11-09 15:01
Do you reduce EVERYTHING down to the level of a cartoon? What a joke.

I am saying something very simple: if you can't offer competitive salaries, you need to offer some other stake in the game, like the sense that there is respect for what people have been doing in their departments in their careers. A brain drain is not something BGSU--or the local community--can want if it is to maintain the real gains it has made in academic prestige since the 90s.
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# 2012-11-12 11:17
My understanding is that you can pick up a music/pop culture instructor from an Ivy league school for a bargain rate these days. Professors are in abundance, it's a supply and demand situation and you know it.
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# 2012-11-12 12:45
Your understanding of the market is woefully inaccurate--as is your understanding of me. Based on your other comments on this site, I suspect that if it were up to you you would dissolve any number of departments on campus and reduce it down to marketing and business degrees. That way none of the grads would be uppity enough to argue with you or equipped enough to out-earn you. And BGSU would just be a glorified version of Davis or Stautzenberger. Your definition of supply and demand is not how most academic fields define it.
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# 2012-11-12 15:03
My understanding of the market is much better then you think. With applicants lining up at nearly every school for tenure track positions, the market has been over saturated for decades. In the end it becomes a supply and demand situation, and with the rare exception of certain fields (like Business) their is an abundance of highly qualified and exceptional instructors waiting to be hired.
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# 2012-11-12 18:04
I agree with the fact that too many PhDs are being produced. Too many schools offer such programs with too little attention given to whether they are uniquely strong and validated. Usually, the problem is admitting too many people in the early stages of the program. My own PhD institution admitted only 3-4 students a year, only half of whom completed the PHD. It also has one of the highest job placement rates in the country. I am glad that you are finally giving specifics rather than just taking pot shots. But the humanities programs at BG (I presume that is your target) are not really producing more students than any place else. There are very few PhD programs and they tend to do quite well.

The market is saturated with mediocrity.
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# 2012-11-12 13:06
FYI, your attempt to insult me founders in your phrase "music/pop culture instructor." That shows contempt for academic training in the humanities and that your "understanding" is simply aggressively-stated militant ignorance. (Note: I am not the one making this personal; you are, but you miss because you are so locked in your puny little world).

Here is your problem, as I see it: you really dislike the university because it employs many people who are more liberal than you and you see it as an assault on your values, as a leech on your community. You have no respect for the specific worth of the scholarship or individual qualities of anyone who works there. And you have no understanding of how the world of academia works. So you make fun of it and belittle it. Congratulations !
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# 2012-11-12 14:51
Actually I like 90% of the University. It's just the 10% of dead weight that needs kicked to the curb. If we can dump the garbage that has long dragged us down as an organization then we can move forward and upward. Until then having positions and programs that serve no person then to make us feel better is flushing money down the preverbal toilet. Let's be honest, the faculty union was formed as a way to circle the wagons because staff new the cuts were coming and people were afraid it might be themselves who were cut. So it was a desperate attempt to both grab more cash and cover your own behind.
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# 2012-11-12 18:08
Based on comments you have made elsewhere, I am guessing that that "10%" is in the humanities, possibly also the music school, and would involve basically all the interdisciplina ry-studies programs. Am I wrong? You would be mistaken, because many of these students are able to parlay their degrees into interesting careers with NGOs, non-profits, international organizations, etc. A select few place into prestigious PhD programs and have strong careers. You also, I think, crassly undervalue humanities degrees, in their potential for developing flexible, critical thinking and writing skills that can have flexible applications later on. Sure, these programs--like any--can produce mediocre and unmotivated students, but that is not the fault of the program. BGSU is an open-admissions school.
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# 2012-11-07 02:26
Want to know where tuition is going? Take a look at administrative bloat. At BGSU, there is almost a 1-to-1 ratio of administrators to faculty. Kids go to learn -- not to be administered! (Not to mention the fact that admins make six-figure salaries while our some instructors make around 40K.)
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# 2012-11-07 08:39
and that state subsidy that the local anti-education crowd likes to whine about? That they like to say should be zeroed out so that the university "lives within their means?" That they use in order to pontificate about how the everyday behaviors of professors should be subject to public scrutiny and judgment? That has been reduced over the past 15 years to about equal to the tuition difference between what in-state and out-of-state students pay.
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# 2012-11-06 19:35
It's time for the administration to negotiate. My alma mater has a union now -- that's the reality. There's no sense in the administration dragging its feet, and there is no need for acrimony. Just do your business, President Mazey. Be ethical.
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# 2012-11-09 11:32
Say NO to unions at all costs. Once these pests burrow in they are like ticks.
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# 2012-11-10 21:05
Has your salary been ever cut in half,bgsu72? Would you like to live on the wages of 1980? Then u probably know nothing about unions to begin with. I myself , am just a meager hairstylist. But I do have a child going to bg, and soon Aston. My whole family have masters degrees from BG. My brother earned a PHD and 2masters from there. I can proudly say networked hard for all of that , but doesn't make 100K or even 200K. Jhe would probably be more in the Millionaire range! So don't assume if all PHDs are not worth their pay. Students look at the cost of buildings and not what their professors make! Christopher Williams, why are you even trying to explain any of this to a meat moron?
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# 2012-11-07 13:04
Seeing the professors at BGSU with signs complaining about salaries makes me sick. If you look at the AAUP survey in 2011, profs make $94,000/yr, associates make $74,000/yr and so on. Then go on to full compensation for faculty and it goes up to $116,000/yr and $89,000/yr. Is it lower pay than other universities, yes, but I don't think you will get much sympathy by a community where most make less than you. We all are struggling in this economy, so stop complaining when you are some of the top earners in this community.
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# 2012-11-07 20:03
The complaints are not about salaries--other than sometimes comparing their salaries to other schools.

Was that AAUP survey about BGSU professors? It doesn't look like it. Assistant professors make in the 40s, Associates sometimes only in the 50s-60s, often $20K less on average than their peers at other institutions. They seek a role in governance in compensation for the fact they work at BGSU for so much less than they could elsewhere. Yes, professors can make more than many others in the community, but it is a DIFFERENT PROFESSION, populated with people who are leaders in their fields, who have 10+ years of post-college schooling on average, and these people are leading taxpayers in the community.
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# 2012-11-09 11:32
If I am correct ... you are a University of Toledo teacher. So why are you commenting on the message board other then being a union shill?
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# 2012-11-09 15:06
Cut the garbage, 72. For one, as I have repeated ad nauseam, I am not in the union, so I am not impressed with your new vocabulary word. For another, the governance problems at BGSU predate the union, which was formed only a little more than a year ago. Academics apply for jobs at universities that do and don't have unions. Their peers are NOT determined by union membership. Faculty unions are strictly campus-specific affairs. The issues BGSU faces are deeply relevant to me as a UT colleague. In the real world, people at different universities talk and cooperate with each other. Besides, having put in 15 years working at BGSU and continuing to act as a colleague and guest lecturer, I care about what happens with my friends.
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# 2012-11-08 10:29
I just left BGSU and joined another university because of the low pay and uncomfortable atmosphere.
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# 2012-11-08 13:13
Indeed. It happens a lot. I think if some of the armchair critics would just consider apples-to-apples comparisons they would be less quick to judge. The apples to apples comparison is not to other local salaries and other local jobs. It isn't to K-12 salaries (which are actually higher than for many on the higher ed academic ladder). It is to other universities who are competing for the same pool of newly-minted and experienced PhDs and scholars.
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# 2012-11-08 23:42
Really? I am a senior here at the college. Which university? The Master Plan is rolling out. Pretty soon, fewer will be able to afford to attend here. What they are doing is MASSIVE.
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# 2012-11-09 08:09
One thing BGSU faculty are fighting for is more of a say in that master plan. The costs students are being forced to bear are rapidly taking the "public" out of the university.
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# 2012-11-12 15:38
Students are being buried by the glut of unnecessary programs like pop-culture and the study of modern Indian romance films.
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# 2012-11-12 17:59
again, you are taking cheap shots, though I "applaud" you for dimly remembering what I did when I was an (unpaid) fellow of that department. (Although I did unique work on the musical structures of the scores of pre-1965 films and their relation to concepts of Indian national identity). For the record, BGSU's pop-culture program is unique in the country, the only one that offers a master's degree in the subject, and is internationally highly respected. There is no "glut" of such programs. Courses are well attended and students tend to do well in their future endeavors when they leave.
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# 2012-11-13 09:40
Courses are well attended in some of these silly programs because students are forced to take them! If you gave students more choices of what they could take within fields, subjects like pop culture, ethnic studies, women studies and the likes would wither and die overnight.
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# 2012-11-14 01:13
Having both attended at taught at BGSU I figure I can chime in here... aside from "basic" courses like math, science, English, etc. no courses are forced on students. Students have a variety of elective course from which they can choose... plenty choose those areas for which you have such obvious and misguided disdain. In fact, plenty of those programs are growing due to student interest.
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# 2012-11-14 07:29
You say "forced to take them." I say (and the university says) "count toward breadth requirements." Students CHOOSE to take them from a number of options. All you are saying is you do not approve of such courses for ideological reasons, but you don't run the university, thank God. When I worked in the BGSU music department, I taught a course on World Music and Culture. It was well attended, and popular enough to be fully booked enough for four lecture sections. These courses do compete and succeed. Of course, if breadth requirements were eliminated, BGSU would cease to be a college and would become merely a trade school.

And, I repeat, the Popular Culture department is unique in the country and internationally respected. That is a fact, which does not matter to you.
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# 2012-11-09 10:48
Grow up and act like real adults. Most of us that don't work for the university, the city or state haven't had wage increases in YEARS!!!! Our benefits are worse then yours, we get harassed all the time yet we don't whine, carry around signs, or act childish about it. We make less monies and do more work then those of you doing the complaining. You should be supporting your employer -if you don't like it there, LEAVE - someone else will take your job and not complain.
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# 2012-11-09 13:15
Comparing the college professors to other people in the community misses the point, because it is not an apples-to-apples comparison. BGSU professors compare themselves to UT, OSU, CWRU, Michigan, Harvard, etc., and rightly so.

The attitude that you should support your employer or leave, regardless of whether the employer acts in good faith or not, is a troubling one, but one found all too often in this community.
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# 2012-11-14 01:14
That you may have it worse is no reason to expect others to just accept what they perceive as wrong. Nobody is stopping you from fighting for your rights as a worker so why demean those choosing to fight for theirs'?
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# 2012-11-09 11:31
It's just the union being a union. Twist some arms and tell some lies.
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# 2012-11-09 12:06
Professors should be paid by the number of days they actually show up to teach. When my son went there, many, many times he would get to class to find a note on the door that there was no class that day. No explanation, nothing. Of course, we didn't get refunded for that day of no learning!
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# 2012-11-09 15:09
Professors are paid on a salary basis, based on the number of credit-hours they teach, and their contact hours, which are only a fraction of what they are expected to work in order to keep their jobs, vary considerably from day to day. A professor might be on campus 12 hours one day, none at all the next, depending on schedule. You can't condemn the system on the basis of one professor who canceled classes. Canceled classes are supposed to be made up.
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# 2012-11-09 17:54
BGSU72 needs to walk in an instructors shoes for a while. He/she sounds like someone who would be complaining if he/she was asking to know what the proposed benefit package was. People don't unionize when their happy on the job and treated fairly.
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# 2012-11-12 11:21
Ummmmmm you are making assumptions.
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# 2012-11-12 13:06
and you are not?
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# 2012-11-09 18:14
Christoper Williams you have too much time on your hands to comment on everything people are saying. Try doing some volunteer work in the community. A good time would be tomorrow at the library. Downtown BG is always looking for volunteers. What are your credentials anyway? You seem to think you have all the answers. ??
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# 2012-11-10 10:00
Right now I am only commenting on this issue, Sue. I am doing so because I care deeply about this topic. You seem to be irritated that I am trying to educate the people who are commenting here by mixing their prejudices about unions with their prejudices (and resentments) about academics and coming up with a completely incorrect view of what is going on here. As a former member of the BGSU faculty, I feel I have a stake in this discussion, even though I now work at UT. You asked about my credentials: I have an MA and PhD from Cal-Berkeley and a BA from Yale and am active and well-known on the national level in my discipline. I also teach more students at UT than anyone else in my department. Issues of faculty governance are important to me, and I know stuff that I am trying to share here.
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# 2012-11-11 06:36
Why is it that every time Dr. Williams is providing useful information and trying to inform people, the know-nothings and want-to-know nothings attack him for posting at all?

Is it because they would rather discredit him than do any homework themselves?

He really does know what he is talking about on this topic, and it really doesn't take that much time to comment on blog posts.
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# 2012-11-12 11:21
THank you so much! I thank Dr. Williams all the time for taking time from his job at THE University of Toledo to tell us simpletons what the real story is. I think it's great that someone who neither lives or works in the city takes the time to tell us what to do with our money, lives and opinions.
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# 2012-11-12 12:40
Well, if you think the whole story is about unions, money, and people taking money out of YOUR pocket, you ARE a simpleton. You seem to feel that your opinion is correct and any contradictory viewpoint is something you resent so deeply that rather than arguing on facts you would just take personal pot shots at the other person. Well, listen, buddy, when it comes to how things work at BGSU, you are misinformed, and what happens at BGSU has far more relevance to me as a colleague than it does to you.
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# 2012-11-12 14:43
Ummmm. You once again are making assumptions about where I work and what I do for a living. With that said, unions have no business being in education or white collar fields. They need to get out and let professionals be professional.
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# 2012-11-12 17:55
Where do you work and what do you do for a living, then? I was assuming that you were not in academia based on a number of false statements. The higher ed situation with unions is different from K-12 fundamentally. (and from your own experience, though I disagree with you on their usefulness even then). In higher ed, they are more like campus-specific professional guilds that offer bargaining units in relation to the admin and establish contract stability. There is no consistency from school to school about how the unions operate or even if they exist (it did not exist at BGSU before 2011). At UT, the union can be credited with the survival of that institution as a comprehensive university (for reasons too complex to go into here).
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# 2012-11-12 12:54
BGSU72, you just show yourself as a bitter, know-nothing who is not interested in knowing the facts on any issue. You just want to insult and personally discredit anyone who would challenge your ignorant comments. Dr. Williams was trying to inform; he wasn't telling you anything about your own money or life. And that just proves how ignorant you are: faculty don't get that much of their salary from the government and their issues are not about their pay anyway. They are about how the school is run and the quality of instruction. It's only logical that if you are going to make your faculty work for the worst pay among their peers that you at least treat them as partners.
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# 2012-11-12 14:45
If the faculty would like to be part of the structuring of the systems then they should apply for chair positions and committees that work on such issues. Or even better switch to administration positions. Until then shut up and do the job you were hired for!
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# 2012-11-12 17:51
You seem to think that the only valid organizational model is top-down.

When you write "even better switch to administration positions," you fail to acknowledge that in educational institutions, the biggest salary bloat and greatest redundancy is contained in administration.

All full-time faculty find themselves on one kind of committee or other--curriculum, personnel, and so forth (I serve on a campus-wide committee on writing courses)--so your top-down assumption fails to account for the horizontal and cross-campus organization of university departments. Furthermore, department chairs are often rotated among all tenured faculty in a department.
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# 2012-11-12 13:08
It's more important to BGSU72 to hurl insults and to double-down on his ignorance than to inform himself.
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# 2012-11-10 10:17
It seems that a lot of people here have their knee-jerk, one-size-fits-all prejudices against unions, have their prejudices against academia (that it is basically a useless, out-of-touch, blood-sucking endeavor and that no research by people with college connections should ever matter if it contradicts corporate or republican points), and a sense of resentment that academics are seen as a rich and privileged group of people who espouse "foreign" attitudes (political and social) that are rejected by many in rural Wood County. In short, they deny academics sympathy for their own labor issues because they are deeply resented by some who post on this blog. But those of you who feel this way are jumping to conclusions without the facts that you show you don't care about.
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# 2012-11-12 11:19
Unions need to go.
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# 2012-11-12 12:36
Which of the following do you believe, BGSU72?

1. Managers should have total control over workers at all times, workers should not have a say in the conditions under which they work, and if they don't like it they should leave because there are plenty of other people who want their job?
2. All unions are the same, whether on the floor of an auto factory or if they are professional guilds (like faculty unions)?
3. Once a person is part of a union they are no longer a person but a thug?
4. All of the above?
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# 2012-11-12 14:42
You did an adequate job with your list for me. I woud add that the union worker is in essence looking out for A#1 and is willing to twist the contracts of today to hurt the workers of tomorrow.
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# 2012-11-12 18:12
I think then your organizational model does not describe the modern university as it should be. I recommend Andrew Delbanco's recent book addressing some of the looming practical problems along with the fallacious assumptions that many people outside the institution have about it. I would also recommend that book to many in the BGSU administration AND faculty, who may have failed to think all these issues through adequately.
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# 2012-11-12 12:15
The university administration simply must negotiate with BGSU faculty in a responsible manner. It is this lack of respect for the faculty and the instructional mission of the university that always creates the need for the union.
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# 2012-11-12 15:39
Nope. The union can be formed but the university has no responsibility to start bowing to their every whim and changing the rules.
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# 2012-11-12 18:13
The problem, actually, is not the union. The union was formed BECAUSE the administration was not dealing with the faculty in a responsible manner. There were a series of unilateral moves taken that convinced many faculty to change their position from opposition to support of the union. That tendency toward unilateral action on a campus whose credibility is based on the resources provided by the faculty (not the administrators) is what needs to be examined.
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# 2012-11-14 22:32
BGSU72 - Your beef should be with past administrators and now current administrators who seemed/seem at a loss for figuring out how to handle the situation. Good managers know how to deal with unions and get the CBA completed. Much of this could have been averted and wasn't.
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