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Written by DAVID DUPONT Sentinel Staff Writer   
Tuesday, 31 July 2012 09:39
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Bowling Green School District voters will be asked to approve an additional 0.75-percent income tax when they go to the polls Nov. 6.
The Bowling Green Board of Education at a special meeting Monday voted unanimously to go with the five-year income tax levy rather than a property tax or a combination of a property tax and an income tax.
The 0.75-percent tax will generate $4,050,000 annually, according to Treasurer Rhonda Melchi.
The additional tax is necessary because the district faces a $12,239 deficit June 30, 2014 without new revenue.
If the income tax is passed the district is expected to be in the black through June 30, 2016. That is if the district doesn't experience further cuts in state funding.
Board President Eric Myers said "I was originally intrigued by a combination of property and income tax." However the residents he discussed the plan with "were not as positive."
And they were "very negative toward a property tax," he said.
While these were "informal discussions" they were enough to convince him to support asking for an income tax increase. 
"At this time asking for any increase is not going to be popular," he said, 'but asking for the increase in income tax would be less unpopular."
If approved, the increase would bring the school district tax up to 1.25 percent. In spring voters renewed the district's 0.5-percent income tax. By having the new tax last for five years, it would mean the entire amount would come up for renewal at the same time.
The taxes are levied on taxpayers' adjusted gross income, noted board member Paul Walker.
"We know the community is strapped," said board member Ellen Scholl. She said school officials were doing "everything we can" to keep costs down, but without the additional revenue, deep cuts would have to be made.
Superintendent Ann McVey said that since 2004 district officials have been making a concerted effort to reduce spending.
The district has reduced personnel through attrition and closed and sold buildings to reduce overhead and maintenance costs.
It hasn't been enough. Those cuts, McVey said, were offset by unexpected reductions in support from the state.
Any further reductions could lead to laying off teachers, she said.
Melchi said, "there's not much to cut."
Last Updated on Tuesday, 31 July 2012 09:42
 

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# 2012-07-31 09:50
Vote NO!
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# 2012-07-31 12:37
I will NOT vote for anymore wasted money in this School District.
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# 2012-07-31 10:41
School treasurer Rhonda Melchi said "there's not much to cut", of course there's plenty to cut on the benefit side of the employee pay package.
1. REDUCE steps from 28 to 6 (negotiable)
2. REDUCE sick-time from 15 to 7 days/year, with no carry-over.
3. REDUCE holidays from 14 to 10 per year.
4. Do away with RETIRE/REHIRE and give young teachers a chance.
5. implement an insurance based sick policy (short term and long term).
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# 2012-07-31 11:06
Yep. Time for teachers union to get out of the way of reform.
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# 2012-07-31 12:36
Good ideas Oldham, there are many things that can and should be cut, such as the Athletic Director, let the coaches take care of this, just like they did before. BGHS is NOT that big to have this position. Yes sports are important,how about pay as you play, if some one can't afford it, then hold fundraisers for it. You go to school fro an education, not sports. When sports start to dig into the money that takes away from education, something stinks there.
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# 2012-08-01 07:41
Quoting Cindi:
Good ideas Oldham, there are many things that can and should be cut, such as the Athletic Director, let the coaches take care of this, just like they did before. BGHS is NOT that big to have this position.


Cindi, either you have an ax to grind with BGHS's Athletic Director or you have NO idea what goes into making a successful Athletic Program for a School System.

BGHS has excellent opportunities for our young people via Athletics and your proposed solution to our financial problems is absurd.
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# 2012-08-01 08:39
Well said Cindi! Pay to play is best method. And with the ability of boosters to raise money, an extra fundraiser for kids that need help would be a noble effort and met with success from the community.
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# 2012-08-03 15:46
More fund raisers. can think of many so everyone can play. Have many, many pancake BF, Pizza sales, etc.
Have kids get out to sell these things and help at the events. The teachers could help also.
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# 2012-07-31 14:41
And this would save money how? First off..most would have to be changed at the State level..and that's not going to happen. Reducing steps would cost more..by taking employees to the highest pay level sooner. Holidays and sick days would have a neglegible impact on finances at best. Retire/rehire is a good idea for giving youngsters a chance..but would do little cost wise. Face it..staff and extracurricular s will be cut if this doesn't pass.. not much choice anymore!
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# 2012-07-31 16:10
Well Bill we have to start someplace. Change has to happen. Take a good look at the cash-out of teachers (and other public employees)at retirement. Big savings if the public employees were converted to an insurance based sick-time. My son pays $40 a month for a long term disability plan.I think very few private employers offer 14 holidays a year to their workers. Again these are ONLY IDEAS to get the ball rolling.
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# 2012-08-03 15:51
Oldham-you are right we have to start somewhere. If not the schools will close then what? People are tired of their taxes going up. It doesn't matter what tax form you try, most people are taxed way to much and less take home money. It makes one want to do crimes.
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# 2012-07-31 17:11
cut them.
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# 2012-08-03 15:43
Good thoughts Oldham.
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# 2012-07-31 12:19
Have there been any movement on moderating administrative salaries?

Vote no on this levy. Our town is in need of new investments and growth. With continued tax increases every six or seven months, we become far less competitive.

We just passed several taxes on income and property, including the new pool complex. We already heard that will cost more than anticipated.

We need to put accountable leaders into positions to help battle this spend whatever we can get mentality. Time for real planning, and time for tough choices. Don't think we need administrative staff earning $80k and above while we ask teachers to forgo any raises or changes in benefits.
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# 2012-08-03 15:55
NB-Your ideas are Great! Why don't you take over McVeys position? I bet she wouldn't want her salary touched, would she?
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# 2012-07-31 12:42
It's not just no, it's oh hell no!
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# 2012-07-31 12:52
I can't vote for this. I've voted for revenue for BG schools previously because I think it's a great investment, but since I am on a fixed income and barely make it through the month as it is, I think the school needs to look harder for cuts, especially before cutting teachers. If the current party in power in Ohio wins in November nationwide, it's going to mean more cuts, not fewer so "hoping" to get to 2016 in the black with this tax is merely wishful thinking. There's only so much individual taxpayers can provide when jobs are so scarce, gas prices are so high, etc. Take another look, a really hard look, at the budget you have. Keep the teachers (I'm not one) and cut the overhead.
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# 2012-07-31 13:35
Teachers are the overhead. It's time to call in the promise by the unions that they would be willing to give major concessions if SB5 was defeated.
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# 2012-07-31 14:05
Unfortunately..there is not much in the way of "overhead" to cut anymore that would do much good at this point. State cuts have devestated our schools. Short of "pay to play" or cutting athletics, Chorus, or band..(which would result in a public uproar)..positions both Classified and Teaching will be cut. Maintenance, Clerical, and Custodial will be cut resulting in advanced deterioration of the properties..including a new Middle School and Crim addition.Oldhams suggestions are mainly State mandated and will not happen. It isn't the Teachers Union blocking anything..it's simply a lack of funding.
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# 2012-07-31 14:43
Quoting Joan:
I can't vote for this. I've voted for revenue for BG schools previously because I think it's a great investment, but since I am on a fixed income and barely make it through the month as it is, I think the school needs to look harder for cuts, especially before cutting teachers. If the current party in power in Ohio wins in November nationwide, it's going to mean more cuts, not fewer so "hoping" to get to 2016 in the black with this tax is merely wishful thinking. There's only so much individual taxpayers can provide when jobs are so scarce, gas prices are so high, etc. Take another look, a really hard look, at the budget you have. Keep the teachers (I'm not one) and cut the overhead.

Right on here!
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# 2012-08-03 16:00
Don't gorget Joan, parents need to pay more for their students as well. Do away with books. Have every student buy I-pads pr other brands and download the books they need every year, at the parents expense. This would help reduce the tax-payer load.
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# 2012-07-31 13:52
The teachers are the backbone for are children.. I am so sick of people putting the blame on teachers and taking more cuts... I ask all of you have you taken cuts from your job?? Why not just cut all extras.... Sports bring in pay to play.. Why is it my job to pay for students to play sports... I beleive education is the most important thing not sports.. Parents if you want your kids to play sports then pay for it yourself.. I am tired of paying for it...We need to get to the basics and sports doesn't fit into Education.. I can't afford anymore taxes... I am voting NO until BGHS gets back to the basics for EDUCATION....
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# 2012-08-03 16:05
Also taxpayer-have one bus route. Everyone gets picked up one route. There is a close school district that does it that way and it works, McComb. Kids get on the bus early, school starts at 8 am for everyone and they get out at 3:15-3:30 pm.
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# 2012-07-31 14:22
Really??? REALLY??? Last election: "This is only a renewal - there is no new tax." They get their renewal on that propaganda. Now, here we are again. the board can't hide behind the "renewal" argument this time. Better start making those DEEP CUTS because the only answer here is NO!!!!
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# 2012-07-31 15:17
And when the "deep cuts" are made..parents and taxpayers will be the first to throw a fit over no Sports programs ..field trips..foreign language classes..Summer programs..and dirty and un-maintained buildings! You might just get what you ask for!
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# 2012-08-03 16:10
Senior-you are right but they have to start somewhere. Maybe you have money and can aford to have your taxes raised but most people can't.I pay over $9,000 per year property taxes, that is way to much.
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# 2012-07-31 15:08
When the levy to build the new Junior High was put on the ballot, I was assured that it would be a Junior High, not a middle school. "No space for an additional grade, not going to happen" is what I was told by very high ranking school officials, and I still have the email messages to prove it. Well, foolishly enough I took them at their word and I voted for it. And, of course, they turned right around and made it a middle school shortly after it was built. That was the last time I will ever vote yes for BG schools. Lie to me, and you get a no vote every time from then on. They are now looking to more than double the income tax on us? Tell them emphatically "NO". It is time to look at ways to save money, not take more money from us to be wasted and inefficiently spent. Taxes in BG are way too high already. Enough is enough.
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# 2012-08-03 16:13
Right on BG Citizen-My point exactly.
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# 2012-07-31 15:11
Wow, I seem the school board is courting the retiree vote as they do not pay this tax. Got to love it when other people can vote the money out of my wallet.
Only the working people will pay this.

All members of a Comunity should pay for Comunity services. Not just those who are working.


I may have to look at my residency options if this passes as I can not afford to give up 3.25% of my income to schools and the City. Plus the High BG property taxes!

Heck my local income tax rate will be higher than what my State income tax rate is. This is messed up!

Got to love the unconstitutiona l school funding in the state of Ohio, DeRolph V Board of Ed.

What has it been 20 years now and still no resolution!
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# 2012-08-01 07:49
Quoting Rocket 1:
Wow, I seem the school board is courting the retiree vote as they do not pay this tax.

All members of a Comunity should pay for Comunity services. Not just those who are working.


Heck my local income tax rate will be higher than what my State income tax rate is. This is messed up!

Got to love the unconstitutiona l school funding in the state of Ohio, DeRolph V Board of Ed.

What has it been 20 years now and still no resolution!


Rocket 1, I agree with MOST of your comment BUT you idea that those of us who are retired do not pay income tax is WRONG. I am retired and if this passes I will also be paying over $1750 in Income Tax + Property Taxes. I am OK with Property Taxes as everyone pays them in some form.
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# 2012-08-03 16:22
Rural guy-people who rent do not pay property taxes.
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# 2012-08-07 19:06
Quoting Suzzie Belle:
Rural guy-people who rent do not pay property taxes.


Suzzie, If a landlord incurs a Property Tax increase, they will pass that increase on to their renters in the form of a rent increase.

A LOT of the ideas you have posted on this topic have little merit. (Ex) Your idea of downloading textbooks and having parents pay for the cost sounds good, BUT Very Few High School Textbooks are available for downloading.

Your idea of Bus Usage: Actually almost ALL buses arrive at the school at capacity using the current Busing method. Using your idea would cost the School Board more as they would need to buy more Buses and hire additional Drivers to accomodate a One-Trip method of picking up students.

Your lack of knowledge of how Schools actually work is obvious.
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# 2012-08-03 16:20
There is no fair way to tax, other than cut things out, no more benefits than already exist, no pay raises for all employees, parents pay for electronic tablets for books, keep maintenence up on buildings, one bus route for k-12, change times off and spread throughout the year, etc. People everything is changing and so should education.
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# 2012-07-31 15:12
I have an Idea May be we should pass a renters only tax. Allow the students to pay for our schools. As they are a current drain on our municipal services.
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# 2012-07-31 22:34
Actually is an excellent idea. How about the students as well. If I recall they were able to vote on our local issues and change the outcome for our city however they economically contribute nothing to the tax base.
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# 2012-08-02 00:38
Are you kidding me Jess? Students do not economically contribute to the tax base? As a BGSU alum from way back, I have to tell you that you should maybe become a student yourself and take an economics course. The students are the only reason why Bowling Green is a city and not a one-store town with dirt roads in the middle of the country.Not only does the University supply thousands of professional jobs (who then buy goods) but the students themselves contribute heavily to the economy, which in turn generates tax revenue. BG would be nothing without the students, so Rocket & Jess, you best check yourself before you wreck yourself.
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# 2012-08-03 16:33
Niki-excuse me? Yes the college contributes but only a small bit. I could write an essay on this issue. There are many county jobs created from BGSU. It would not be a bad thing if BG was a one horse town. I was born and raised in BG. Just about everyone I know goes to other NW Ohio communities to shop. We are located between PB, Tol and Fin where shopping is Great. Oh I forgot we need another Mexican Rest, bar or Pizza shop or salon or fast food. Did you not forget Meijer is just a Mkt store for college studwents to go home and shop at. Really! The bg Mkt around the world has ruined BG as other small Wd Cty towns. Ask NB where they shop? They don't come to BG they go to Findlay.
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# 2012-08-03 16:23
Jess-Praise the Lord-finally someone has a lot of sense.
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# 2012-07-31 15:14
Take one afternoon to walk through the halls of Bowling Green high school and you will see the need for additional resources the students desperately deserve and require. DO NOT PUNISH THE STUDENTS OR HARD WORKING TEACHERS for the ELECTED board member's negligence of money. Vote yes and then vote to replace all of the board members that you feel are spending the money unwisely. Please think about your community and all of the lives this will effect
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# 2012-07-31 22:20
Mike, your theory is good, but we all know once this is passed, nothing will change. It will be hard, but the voters must take the stance that the schools cannot stand with an open hand every 6 months and expect the tax payers to continue to give up more and more. Everyone is struggling and cuts will have to be made
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# 2012-08-03 16:38
IH8BG-You are right. Isn't that a shame everywhere, all these new school buildings and now we can't afford to keep them going. Gee, maybe it should be a requirement that if you have a child in and or children in the BG schools that parents might have to volunteer to keep things up rather than have OUR taxes raised.
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# 2012-07-31 15:39
In very plain language, this proposed school income tax WILL MORE THAN DOUBLE what you are paying today. THINK ABOUT THAT.
There are 19,000 registered ACTIVE voters in the Bowling Green school district. Of those Republicans and Democrats are about even with 4800 each. 10,000 of the active voters are non partisan and vote on issues only.
Please call and tell a friend that your tax will more than double. Many folks on fixed income should be very concerned.
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# 2012-07-31 23:03
NO MORE TAXES.
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# 2012-07-31 23:59
This all seems like fuzzy math. I don't get why we need to more than double our income tax to avoid a $12,000 deficit.

Note to Mr. Myers: I am not growing a money tree in my back yard. I have not had a raise in nearly 4 years. In that same time, gas prices have more than doubled, food costs have gone way up and my property taxes keep getting jacked up every time I turn around. Its time to go back to the drawing board and find some intrigue in fiscal responsibility.
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# 2012-08-01 00:22
Vote yes and watch more wage earners/homeowners move out of Bowling green most commute anyway to other cities as there is little viable industry left in Bowling green anyway.I wanted to get into VehTech and had to drive to Toledo to sign up for a temporary service...Industry doesn't even want local talent( I have 25 years experience too). Most sold single family homes are ending up as rentals now and those rental signs are staying up longer too.This city is going to tax its self out of existence.Be smart and vote no.
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# 2012-08-01 08:12
And move where? All of Ohio's schools are in the same fix..not just BG. Perrysburg..Eastwood....Lake..all ask for levies and tax increases to survive. State funding is the problem.
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# 2012-08-03 16:46
PK-you are totally right. No where to move, even beyound Wd Cty. We are all screws.
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# 2012-08-01 08:12
And move where? All of Ohio's schools are in the same fix..not just BG. Perrysburg..Eastwood....Lake..all ask for levies and tax increases to survive. State funding is the problem.
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# 2012-08-01 10:47
I don't really have any desire to wade into the weeds of whether this should be a property or an income tax, or whether there should be a new levy at all (though maintaining the quality of schools should be a priority for any community). However, the notion that somehow a community's strong commitment to the quality of its schools would drive current or potential residents AWAY seems silly in the extreme; the quality of schools is used to ATTRACT new residents. Yes, we are going through tough economic times, but to shoot off our feet in order to save on the cost of shoes does not seem a good tactic for running in the global economy. Times will get better, maybe slower than one likes, but if you give up on education, you simply have given up.
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# 2012-08-03 16:48
Cw-You are right but at what cost?
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# 2012-08-03 16:45
Gary-BG-I never thought of it that way, look around in BG there are a lot of "For Rent sign" floating around. Take a lokk at all the N half of Wd Cty. either it's housing developments, stores or industry. There are way to many housing areas.
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# 2012-08-01 00:41
Thank you to the Bowling Green School Board for choosing to place an income tax on the ballot! It is a fair tax. If you make money you pay it, no income,
no tax. Senior citizens pay it the same as everyone else. Please support our schools and VOTE YES!
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# 2012-08-02 09:15
Karen Apple, I detect a little glee in your statement. It is NOT a fair tax. I have no problem paying the 1/2 of 1% presently and I would except a slight increase to 3/4 of 1%. As a LARGE landowner and farmer AND I assume a REPUBLICAN, have a little compassion for the retirees and middle class folks struggling to make it in this economy.
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# 2012-08-03 16:50
Karen-Yes that's true, but when you work there and have property tax both you are screwed. You don't have to worry about it, you only have property tax.
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# 2012-08-04 09:15
Every conservative voter, both republican and democrat ( yes, there are a FEW conservative dem's), should get a copy of the unionized contracts for public employees (including teachers). It's worth reading. Go to 304 N. Church and West Poe Rd. at the school to get a copy.
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# 2012-08-01 00:59
Show me one place where more money equated to a better education. If that were the case our public schools would be giving our kids a better education than we received. That is not the case.
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# 2012-08-01 08:10
BG schools are consistantly rated Excellent.or..Excellent with Distinction..what more do you want? If we were failing..you'd have a case...
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# 2012-08-03 16:54
Cusar-You have a point. Whew!
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# 2012-08-01 05:10
Sorry, there is NO WAY I will vote for an Income Tax increase. A Property Tax I would have strongly considered but NOT an Income Tax!

About HALF of the people pay NO Income Tax so the burden then falls on the rest of us. At least with a Property Tax, Everyone pays something as those who rent etc would have their rent adjusted to make up for the increase in Property Tax.

A family making $100,000 a year would pay $1750 per year in school tax + their Property Tax if this levy were to pass.

That is CRAZY!

I hope people wake up to what they are being asked to vote on.

The Board and Administration aret getting some BAD Advise on this one!
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# 2012-08-01 05:20
Voting for or against this levy should NOT be based on the incorrect idea that our teachers make too much money. The DON'T. It is a case of the State NOT meeting their Constitutional Requirement to come up with a more fair way of funding schools in Ohio. A few years back, our method of funding schools was deemed Unconstitutiona l yet the legislators have NOT corrected this problem.

Now our school board, Adm and Treasurer are asking for an Income Tax that ONLY about half of the people pay and that is WRONG. If your family income is $100,000 and this levy were to pass, you would pay $1750 per year in Income Tax and the additional Property Taxes that are currently on the books. That is WAY TO MUCH for those of us who pay Income Tax.

NOT sure what the Board was thinking when they deciede to try this?
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# 2012-08-01 07:18
Thank you especially for the first paragraph in this post. That is absolutely the case. The reason why local districts are being asked to pay more and more is actually not because local school boards are filled with craven beasts, but because there is no revenue sharing on the state-wide level, which is the only way public schools can be fairly funded. And the state level funding has been cut. Statements like "the teachers are the overhead" are absolutely unhelpful, because they betray a viciousness toward education. It is easy to complain about the amount of money "being thrown at" the problem, but the problem is the money is NOT being targeted at classroom instruction and indeed teacher salaries (like it is elsewhere in the world). In fairness, BG actually compares well with other school systems in this regard.
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# 2012-08-03 16:57
Ruralguy- Vote it down, BUT I bet ya $100 they will vring it up again.
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# 2012-08-01 05:52
Anyone wishing to look at unionized public employees contracts, go to SERB website and click on CONTRACTS. You won't be disappointed.
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# 2012-08-01 08:29
It's a shocking reality.
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# 2012-08-01 10:51
John, since you think the teachers are the prime abusers here, in desperate need of being punished for opposing SB5, how much do you think a high school teacher should earn a) in the first year, b) after five years, c) after twenty years? Should high school teachers be encouraged to earn higher degrees? If so, should there be any adjustment in their pay? Should they have to pay out of pocket? Should teachers have any say over their class sizes or choosing their curricula?
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# 2012-08-02 07:07
Chris..you have asked this question numerous times here..and once again..no one wants to answer. Teachers are the problem and overpaid..yet no one wants to weigh in on what they think is a fair wage? I have the feeling that whatever teachers are paid..some would still demand cuts and say it's too lavish. Seems teachers just need to be punished in the eyes of some....
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# 2012-08-02 16:49
Yes they should.
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# 2012-08-03 08:20
How? Do you propose that teachers accept, immediately, drastic pay cuts or be fired?
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# 2012-08-03 17:17
CW-they don't need cuts just no more pay hikes.
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# 2012-08-03 21:01
Sound great to me!!!!
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# 2012-08-03 17:16
Pk-that's a little harsh about teachers. Our economy is the problem. One area gets a raise and so does every thing go up. One is never ahead.
They just need to be put on the back burner. U.S. wages are out of control. Starting at the top. CEO's, administrators. owners of companies, sports people etc. Teachers at my opinion are at the rigate and stay there NO MORE rises. I have never seena poor teacher, they all live in NICE houses and drive nice cars, etc.
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# 2012-08-02 16:49
Starting $30K - Max $70K, based on the field you teach. A Science teacher that is in much higher demand gets paid more then a grade school teacher where applicants are lined up around the block.

They should have zero say in class size or curriculum.
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# 2012-08-03 08:19
"They should have zero say in class size curriculum." If you could isolate the ONE thing that makes school systems among our international competitors so much more successful, it is that they empower the individual teachers to put their expertise to work in the classroom. They earn higher degrees yet stay in the classroom rather than moving into administration. Congrats, John, for urging us to adopt the one reform guaranteed to drive our schools further backward.

Teachers are TRAINED to understand, apply, and innovate with curriculum. Teachers get their jobs often in terms of their understanding of innovation. If you take this out of their hands, you take those teachers out of the applicant pool.

Apparently, you prefer the idea that teachers be unthinking drones; great role models for young people!
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# 2012-08-03 08:31
Let me put it even more simply: young people who find teaching to be their true vocation do so because they feel they can make a difference, that they can communicate their enthusiasm for learning to the next generation. Take away their ability even to have input into what they are asked to do in the classroom, and their response will be "why should I bother?" All you would be left with are brain-dead mediocrities or embittered souls who put up with being told what to do in order to keep their jobs. What you are saying is, "assume the product will be bad, and pay for it accordingly." Thankfully, there is not a serious thinker or reformer about education, conservative or liberal, who shares your view.
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# 2012-08-03 09:43
So you tie a teachers hands as to class size and curriculum..and limit their pay..while requiring higher degrees..all because there are others willing to work for less? Quantity over quality? You live in a fantasy land. Quality will deteriorate as sub=standard teachers will prevail...and a revolving door starts for teachers as they quit. This is a school system..not a factory!
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# 2012-08-01 12:59
It's time to run government like the business that it is. We need to reexamine the concept of "wants" and "needs". I have no problem with indulgence (once we are all on our feet and thriving).I'm thankful for my education at BGHS and BGSU. However, my "common sense" will never let my "book smarts" influence my decisions. As for cuts? Instead of saying there is no room for cuts, let's use those P.H.D's and at least try something like moving all football to Sat.(no electricity cost of lights). While it's not a total solution it would at least show the public that the schools are working on a solution until things turn around. Such ideas mixed with concepts like a percentage contribution system for pay to play, bus service, going to p/t administrator pay, etc. before dipping the bucket into the taxpayer well might actually make it work.
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# 2012-08-01 15:37
Government run like a business does not have the best interests of all its citizens in mind: it reduces everything to profit models. Likewise, education is not like business, because there is no good or simple way to quantify its value, at least directly, in $.

However, I am intrigued by the idea of Saturday football. I grew up in New England, where it was the rule. It does save money. The "Friday Night Lights" tradition seems to be a hardened tradition in the midwest and south, but why?
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# 2012-08-02 18:45
There are always two options when voting for a school levy....Yes or No. Now let's look at what could happen. A "Yes" vote will guarantee the successful operations of schools through at least 2016, providing the state does not make more significant cuts to the district budget. A "No" vote is the first step of a districts failure. How bad? Although the district has not shared its cut options to date, lets look at what could happen.... Initially some reduction of staff say 5-10%. Extra curricular activities being curtailed. Education will slip from excellent to adequate. If the levy would fail a 2nd time (say March primary)..... another 5-10% reduction in staff. Extra curricular activities and including sports eliminated. Education grade card is strained more and now the operational maintenance is effected. Remember "Yes or No".
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# 2012-08-03 22:12
but by voting no, maybe none of this will happen. Maybe the administration will find a way to keep education at the same level. Sure there may be some cuts, but why always teachers. It pulls at the heart strings, so the voters fall for this every time. Maybe it is time for pay to play sports. education should be first priority. The athletes can find local sponsors and work at their establishments in return for financial support. We have to start thinking out of the box instead of just raising taxes, because that is the way we always do it. Oh by the way, your taxes will be going up in January due to Obamas unwillingness to extend the current tax rates for everyone. So this school tax will be just more out of struggling BG residents. Vote NO
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# 2012-08-03 08:35
It is disappointing to see school administrators blaming "state" cuts instead of grounding themselves in reality. The state is us, the same tax paying base. Increasing the tax burden to carry the load for the school is not the answer this time. The economic rules we used to live by have changed. In order to remain relevant, the schools will need to reinvent their own budgets just like the reset of us.
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# 2012-08-03 11:16
@ Blame Shifter how are they blaming? They forcast up to five years to give them a idea about budgeting. It was a 50/50 in regards to state a local funding. They the State started to cut back and then when the Econ Tanked in 2008. Local Reveune decrease. Also the state cut again. All I hear is CUT, CUT, CUT. blindy saying this but refusing to praise how well the school district has perform but, also moving to increase preformance level. I getting sick of people like you and Oldham and others. That so NO INTREST in Education. BG is lucky that the Town has more people that vaule education than all of you.
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# 2012-08-03 12:03
In response to those who see realistic support of local levies as "blame shifting," it is important to realize that there has been significant _cost-shifting_ onto local communities. The state used to allocate a significantly larger portion of its resources to support the schools, but instead of developing the kind of revenue sharing which would be the only basis for allowing all communities similar access to quality education, the funds have simply been cut, forcing communities to rely on property and local income taxes to bear the brunt. You thus have unequal education based on the ability to pay, and inefficient running of schools because every district must fund its own bureaucracy. If you cut public budgets, the cost of running schools does not magically shrink or go away.
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# 2012-08-03 21:00
Funny, I just read an article in the 20 most in demand jobs in the US. Once again teachers do not make the list. Why? Because teaching is a good well paying job with a glut of qualified workers.
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# 2012-08-04 12:33
Warm bodies are not the same thing as talented teachers. If you want good ones, you have to place value on their training and give them some sense of empowerment. The unions have remarkably little to do with it.

As long as you view teachers in terms like "qualified workers," don't see unique value in what the better ones do, and want to control everything they do during the day in the name of "accountability, " you have no hope of bringing constructive reform to education. You have to incentivize the more talented ones to enter and stay in the profession, so that they set standards that others can live up to.
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# 2012-08-03 21:00
The unions are so clearly the problem. Cant we do anything to get rid of them?
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# 2012-08-04 08:57
Yes Suzy, we can do away with the public employee unions. Might take a few "baby steps" to get it done. Start by contacting state rep's, including Rex Damschroder-R of Fremont and Lynn Waxmann-R of Napoleon.
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# 2012-08-04 10:54
Wow..more anti union sentiment..imagine that? Teachers and unions as the all purpose "boogyman" to blame for lack of State funding..again! Yes..teaching is a well paying job..as it should be. You people are so blinded by jealousy of professionals with degrees it's incredible! No..you can't "get rid" of unions..period! No..you can't pay teachers minimum wage..period! What will you do when you eliminate the last good paying jobs out of jealousy..kill off unions so ALL wages and benefits go down? Will you be happy when we finally win the "Race to the Bottom"..and it's only wealthy and poor? Ever sit in a classroom today? You couldn't pay me enough to be a teacher! And you want them to be paid less? With larger classes? No say in curriculum? Obviously having an Excellent rated system doesn't justify them big houses and nice cars teachers have
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# 2012-08-03 14:54
I called SERB headquarters in Columbus today....seems sick-time is negotiable. I would urge all concerned taxpayers to read O.R.C. 4117 and then call your state representative about future changes to the law.
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# 2012-08-06 17:18
Couple of items gleaned from BG Teacher contract. PENSION PICKUP (by employer), what's with that?
FREE dental.
FREE vision.
CASH-OUT at retirement...1/4 of accumulated sick time hours PLUS give one year notice and get an additional 10 hours pay. WISH I COULD GET A DEAL LIKE THAT!
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# 2012-08-08 07:40
Quoting oldham:
WISH I COULD GET A DEAL LIKE THAT!


oldham: You had the opportunity (and still do) to get a College Education and become a Teacher. Please do not whine about your plot in life as you chose your career. 95+% of Teachers do a Great Job and BG has Excellent Teachers.

The problem here is NOT the Teachers; it is the method of funding Education in Ohio. The legislators have failed to come up with a Constitutional acceptable method of funding Schools and now we are asked to pass a "POOR CHOICE" Method (Income Tax) of funding our School System.

Income Tax is a Tax that only 50% of the citizens will pay and that is NOT acceptable. As I have stated, I would support a 2 mill property tax but NOT an Income Tax.
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# 2012-08-08 15:13
ruralguy....I think the teachers are doing a great job. I want to hold the line on raising costs, where ever possible.
I believe there is a means test on the state income tax for those on Social Security. Many of the folks at or below the threshold are having a tough time making ends meet right now. Those folks working in minimum way jobs are also not getting by. Are these examples the 50% that don't pay school tax? What is your opinion of the "earned income tax" for BG schools as opposed to what we have now, which is a tax on ALL income.
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# 2012-08-08 07:48
Quoting oldham:
CASH-OUT at retirement...1/4 of accumulated sick time hours PLUS give one year notice and get an additional 10 hours pay.


oldham: Actually that is a Win/Win for the School System and Taxpayers! They are ONLY paying for 1/4 of the accumulated sick days. If they did not have an incentive to NOT use one's sick days, the cost for hiring subs for Teachers who take off when they are ill vs. coming into work would be significantly higher than the "pay out" when they retire.

Other School Systems in the area have a much better "pay out" for unused accumulated sick days than BG. Again benefits and salary for Teachers is NOT the Problem, as I see it. It is the method of funding Schools.
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# 2012-08-08 15:02
ruralguy.....we have two large school systems in Wood co. with a mix of industry, Bowling Green and Perrysburg. I hope to have the Perrysburg contract in a day or two.I can then check for sick-time payout. Bowling Green has the Pension Pick-up, which I would like to see changed ASAP. Every time a sick day is used, a sub has to be called in. That costs extra money. What in your opinion is the best way to fund schools?
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# 2012-08-07 08:46
BG teachers contract is up one year from now. Maybe that's why the Board is going for plenty of loot.
I plan to look at other unionized public employees contracts for over-the-top fringe benefits. In all fairness, I do not want to single out teachers, as they have a tough job dealing with all sorts of students.
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# 2012-08-07 14:02
I am voting Yes. End of story.
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