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BG citizens push to save downtown green space PDF Print E-mail
Written by HAROLD BROWN Sentinel City Editor   
Tuesday, 19 March 2013 09:46
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Citizens urged city council to preserve this open space on the grounds of the former Bowling Green Junior High school. (Photo: Enoch Wu/Sentinel-Tribune)
Citizen requests to retain the former Bowling Green High School/Junior High School site as green space will receive consideration after Bowling Green City Council receives background material for its review.
Sunset Drive resident Wally Pretzer and West Wooster Street resident Gail Nader told council the green space created by the demolition is an asset and suggested the city not follow through with long-range plans to build a new city building on the site.
Pretzer said the open space shows off some of the historic homes on West Wooster Street and gives the city a square, found in Ohio communities such as Medina, Bryan and Hudson.
"Bowling Green needs a city square for things like a band stand, a gazebo, maybe a mural on the side of the First Presbyterian Church. Some sidewalks and benches would be nice, it could be used for space for art displays and maybe by the Black Swamp Arts Festival," Pretzer said.
"I second the remarks that the area needs to remain green space," Nader said. "I think we need to examine this very closely. It is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity," she said.
Nader also took the opportunity to suggest a change to the no parking zone on South Grove Street near the Wooster intersection. She said there is a safety issue with vehicles getting around parked cars so close to the stop sign.
"There are also some disgusting houses on the north side of West Wooster that need to be cleaned up. The backyards have been a problem since at least 1998. They need to get on the list for some attention," Nader said.
At-Large Council Member Sandy Rowland suggested a council committee to study the issue but after brief discussion Fourth Ward rep Greg Robinette said the present council needs to do some homework on why the site was chosen for a city building.
"People spent a tremendous amount of time, that's the foundation. It does not mean that is where we will head, but we all need to understand the history before we continue the discussion," Robinette said.
Municipal Administrator John Fawcett told council there is "a considerable amount of information" officials can share with council. The first discussions date to 2005 and most council members were not in office. "After you have had a chance to review this material, then schedule a meeting," Fawcett said.
In addition to more than a dozen trees planted on the site last fall, Fawcett said plans call for installation of some benches and a rock with a plaque commemorating the site as a former school building.
Mayor Richard Edwards said details are being worked out to have a representative from the Ohio Historical Society in Bowling Green in early April to discuss details for historic preservation efforts. Edwards has several times promoted the idea of a historic district around the Wood County Courthouse.
 

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# 2013-03-19 09:54
Wasn't a lot of time and money spent determining this was the best location for a new city building/city hall? It seems like a logical location and I am sure that some green space can be incorporated into the design.
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# 2013-03-19 13:10
To my knowledge very little money was spent on finding a location downtown. Keep in mind ideas can and do change with the times. That view as an open space could only be seen AFTER the demolition of the Jr. High. Again the open view to those historic homes is PRICELESS. Hey CITY, why don't you buy the old Huntington Bank building downtown for your "city building ".
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# 2013-03-19 14:11
Ummmm. The only thing it opened up is a view of the side of the church.
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# 2013-03-19 16:36
Only if your neck doesn't move and you only stare in a southward direction.
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# 2013-03-19 13:54
Just leave the space alone! It's fine just the way it is!

Instead, take the area where they are demolishing the old ketchup factory and do something with that. It's unsightly and would also make a nice park/green space.

Stop the development !
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# 2013-03-19 14:39
So you want all the administrative jobs to be moved out of the core of downtown?
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# 2013-03-23 21:15
A public square, in keeping with the piazzas found throughout Europe (and all around the world, really) would be a fantastic addition to downtown BG! A gazebo, sculptures, benches, trees - what's not to love? This ABSOLUTELY would bring people into downtown and to restaurants, stores, etc. And what a picturesque farmer's market we could have! Our downtown is often quite busy, but all the people are indoors, thus making it look like a ghost town to drivers! Seeing people out walking and being active makes others want to join. A public square would be a nice showcase for the community. Many of you have made excellent suggestions, including utilizing existing office space. The current Huntington building (formerly Mid-Am) would be easy to renovate since it's a relatively new building. Alternately, there is the site of the old CA building.
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# 2013-03-24 18:43
Yes!....I agree with you to a point. If you are referring to the Huntington building at S.Main and Clough (alley),this is a current bank employing many, who pay city income tax,etc. More importantly it pays property tax. A "city" building would only pay employee city income tax.
The Huntington Bank building I referred to was across the street from Panera Bread. Just a few hundred feet from the VERY HEART of B.G., Main and Wooster.
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# 2013-03-25 14:30
Oh! Yes, that's a lovely historical building and would be great for the city. For some reason, I thought that the old Mid-Am building was for sale. I stand corrected! In any case -- if Spring ever arrives -- I want to go for a picnic in the new town square! :) What a wonderful place to go after buying cookies, ice cream, sandwiches, coffee, pizza, waffle fries, etc. from downtown businesses!
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# 2013-03-25 18:07
An old dilapidated building!!! Just what the city wants ... a giant money pit.
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# 2013-03-26 10:36
Haha ~ it's true that the building is old. Consider a few things: 1.) That building is here to stay, and therefore needs to be renovated. It is not a candidate for demolition for many reasons, so why not make it useful? This approach would solve multiple problems. 2.) The cost comparison for building and maintaining a NEW building vs renovating an existing building would be interesting to see. New buildings are extremely expensive and *do* require continued expenses, just like older buildings. Once renovated, continued annual expenses might be comparable to a new building. 3.) Renovating the historical bank building would allow us to have our cake and eat it too. City jobs stay downtown? Check. Possibility of a public square remains open? Check. Rid the city of another albatross abandoned building? Check. Beautiful town hall? Check.
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# 2013-03-26 12:39
Darn Yes!, I think we are related! SPOT ON!
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# 2013-03-19 15:19
Oldham and BGmom are right, there are two suggestions that are the most logical places for a city building. I enjoy our past because that is where we came from. Most of NW Ohio was formed from the industrial people from the late 1800's and the view really shows our past. After all the Huntington Building is rather modern and should be up-todate.
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# 2013-03-19 15:39
Hi everyone, you know, they just completed clearing the site of the Heinz plant from demolition. Surprised this publication has yet to proffer much of an update regarding said former site.
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# 2013-03-19 17:35
Good grief. We already have a bloated parks and recreation dept and don't really need more green space to maintain. The concept of a town square doesn't make much sense away from the very center of the city. If you want to see the historic homes on Wooster St, take a drive or walk down Wooster St, haha. The site is actually an eyesore and looks very much like a big demolition site that needs something to finish it off. A new city building is badly needed, however, funding such a new building will be a different issue.
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# 2013-03-20 07:12
One block away from the center of the city. It does open up a view of some of the historic homes along Wooster street.

I think a bandstand/gazebo would be a great improvement over an institutional building.

Just wait until the grass is green and the trees are in full bloom.

Something that the nay-sayers aren't taking into account (apart perhaps from a perverse hatred of anything that has the word "green" in it) is that it was truly hard to visualize the potential of this land when the old school building was hulking there. I know that the church strongly prefers the open space there now.
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# 2013-03-20 08:36
How does it open up a view to historic homes??? It's a square that you see the side of a church, one house 3 homes that you already saw across the street and then the side of the police station. No offense to the approx. 1 home that you can now see better, but to say it opens up a view is silly.
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# 2013-03-21 07:59
Wait until the spring has had a chance to spring and people simply begin employing it as an open space. The scene painted by John Calder is quite likely.

Methinks, John, that you merely see red when ever anyone says "green."
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# 2013-03-21 15:22
Cute, Chris.
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# 2013-03-19 18:08
I really like how it opened up a view to the historic Huntington
Bank drive-thru ATM.
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# 2013-03-19 19:11
keep the green in 'Bowling Green" That open space has a lot of potential uses, farmers market,art festival,car show.Call Huntington about their of fice on s main,at one time that bldg had 200 people working there now last than 25,plenty of parking.
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# 2013-03-19 19:11
Needs to be a parking garage with something else attached to it not enough parking in BG
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# 2013-03-20 08:20
Walking is good exercise my friend.....
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# 2013-03-19 22:26
First, they push against and resist progress when it involves demolishing a building. Then, they push against and resist progress when it involves putting up a building. They wanted to save the building that gave the green space, now they want to save the green space. Do they really know what they want, or are they just arguing for arguing's sake?
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# 2013-03-21 08:04
It's kind of a silly point you are making, because it is not a one-size-fits all question. The armory is a site that has lain empty for years, is close to the downtown crossing, and was not attractive despite any historical value. The Popular Culture building was a functional building, occupied up until a couple weeks before demolition (and with some faculty having their offices moved while they were abroad doing research), was attractive, unique and historical, but was demolished with only short notice because of fast-moving campus development plans that didn't allow time for the feedback necessary. The resulting "green space" was not strategically located or especially attractive. The location of the old JHS is a broad and attractive expanse close to the downtown crossing.
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# 2013-03-20 08:08
This is a "once in a lifetime opportunity" folks. Walk over to the southeast corner of the site. Look to the northwest. What a view! Never before seen in almost a hundred years. The old "movers and shakers" of the city ( Ashel,Wes,etc), would be impressed.
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# 2013-03-20 08:15
For those that might not know, the bank building downtown was known as "The Bank of Wood County" and as such conducted most of the county's business years and years ago. This building is a historic masterpiece in itself. As large as Huntington is , I would think they would just donate the building to the city fathers for a TRULY downtown city office location.
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# 2013-03-21 15:29
Old ham, you next what they would say. Oh it's not up to par and we would have to totally have to remodel and that would cost to much, so we might as well build a new one. Lol
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# 2013-03-20 20:10
The junior high property may well stand empty for a decade until that time that the city accrues the millions surely needed to build a city admin building there (raising taxes to pay for it is not acceptable to most citizens. I'd think that a town square/common space concept would allow many cultural events (farmer's market, Black Swamp, music concerts, open markets, festivals, political rallies, monuments, fountains, park benches, etc.) It could become a place where people could get a taste of the community, a place which imparts psychologically the heart of our community. All this would consequently bring business into Bowling Green and make Bowling Green a desirable place to live and visit.
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# 2013-03-21 11:49
You do realize we have a park less then a mile away that has all offers all of what you listed, with the exception of political events? The city park is a great centrally located park.
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# 2013-03-21 14:02
Less than a mile is different from just one block, and City Park is already quite dedicated in its usage. Personally, I take to heart some of the things Nathan says below.

Think of it more like "Bowling Green Common"
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# 2013-03-21 19:02
Yeah the 12 or so days that music is held at the city park or the new park on the West side ... "quite dedicated". I would rather insure that those jobs stay downtown and we attract business into any vacant office space.

People dont realize the crippling affect of things like the courthouse being on the east end of town have on a small downtown when all of the employees could be downtown through the day.
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# 2013-03-22 07:11
And you don't think that having an attractive common space near the downtown crossing would attract people--and, as Nathan and Oldham and others point out, there is vacant office space that could be used for municipal offices. There is also the lot where the old school administration building used to be.
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# 2013-03-21 08:35
We do not need a new city admin building. Lets utilize undeseriable vacant office spaces in established buildings for any offices that are needed.

Lets save money, not spend money, on luxuries. City Government is not to be a burden on the city and tax payers.

Let the green space remain, allow citizen groups to maintain and build upon it with suggested ideas.

Lets not spend money when we are STILL in uncertain times in this great town. Once business starts to boom once again (if ever), we will have more opportunities.

Keep green space. Don't build new building. Keep BG in good financial footing.

Sorry for grammar and spelling issues. typing quickly as I am walking out the door!
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# 2013-03-21 15:38
Nathan, my point exactly. If they decide to build or remodel, they could use the Huntington building ( old Mid Am) building. If they move what will happen to the old Ad Min building? Oh let's see to expensive to keep up, let's tear it down.
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# 2013-03-21 17:00
Sizzle Belle....the building I had in mind was the one with the pillars, BUT the old First National, then Mid-Am and now Huntington,acro ss the street from the old Centre Market and next to the old streetcar (Giant Hamburger), that one would have possibilities.
Gee, I guess I might be OLD.
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# 2013-03-22 16:58
Me too old ham, we are dating ourselves.........O my I remember all that stuff......
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# 2013-03-22 10:58
Maybe we could fill the space with all the chain restaurants the city residents have been clamoring for.....!
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# 2013-03-22 16:59
Jeff get real, there's no parking available.
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# 2013-03-22 14:42
First you want to save the junior high school. Then you want to save the Pop Culture building at BGSU. Now you want to save the green space.

Let's just declare everything a national landmark with historical significance, shellac it all, and put in on our collective mantle so we can pat ourselves on the back.
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# 2013-03-23 07:42
As I said above in response to something similar: silly comment. These three situations are completely different. And, for the record, I stated here that preserving the JHS was neither practical nor desirable. It was hot mess of flooding problems and asbestos, just to start. The Pop Culture building was historical, and attractive, but it was a casualty of rapid-moving building projects on the campus, took its occupants by surprise and did not allow sufficient time to build the case for its preservation.
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# 2013-03-22 17:30
There are 2 open sites. Why not develop the old Junior High site for a downtown park and build a new city building on the site of the old school administrative building? That way we would have a great green space and a new city building.
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# 2013-03-23 07:38
I tried to post the same suggestion yesterday, but it seems to have been lost with the periodic comments page crash.
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# 2013-03-23 09:49
You people kill me. A building owned by the tax payer was neglected, discarded and sold for penny’s to be demolition because the gov. refused to pay a decent wage for the work. It then pays a ridiculous 450,000 to buy the lot sighting green space, like we don’t have any. Now the gov. wants to build new city buildings on it. Couple that with the fact that this land will never pay a dime in tax and you people finally have had it because some of the grass will be gone. Town needs another soon to be neglected public building, no shortage of money.
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# 2013-03-25 07:22
gargie, that's not an accurate description of the condition of the building. It had outlived its space and its usefulness, and some of its problems were fundamental--not the product of neglect.
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# 2013-03-25 10:50
I just dont get it... it's a big piece of grass on the backside of downtown. It didn't open up anything special that you didn't see before.

Honestly we have 3 very nice parks all within about a mile of that location. I understand if you think that the new building should have a sizable setback to preserve some of the space, but let's be realistic and move on. The new admin building is going there, deal with it.
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# 2013-03-25 12:21
Remember my friend,you work for the taxpayer. Therefor you deal with it.
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# 2013-03-25 15:35
Please forgive me, I spelled therefore WRONG in the above post.
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