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To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Nicole Jackson 2010-02-01 08:08:58 You can't keep taking from a community that pretty much has nothing after the bills are paid, healthcare is provided, and gas is put in the car for transportation. It is unreasonable to ask the community to give up their commodities, or pay more taxes for things they don't feel is necessary, or even want because of how it has disrupted the community, and important special needs programs. I just wonder if what is discussed on this link is one of the ways Mr. Garber has chosen to pay back the loan, and I wonder because of my situation that I have tried to talk to him about. . I just don't understand why medicating my child has been insisted upon by school officials. He does not have a diagnosis that requires it.You may call me a liar, however, there are many parents of children on IEP's that feel the same way, for similar, or unrelated issues, because the school has not done, or said anything to make us feel differently.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Nicole Jackson 2010-02-01 08:13:25 In regards to the link I provided, you will have to scroll down to Drugging Children, and click the play button to listen to the lecture. It's only about 30 minutes, and I find it very interesting.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order ohsgrad 2010-02-01 08:16:09 Mrs. Jackson the children who go to school in Northwood didn't attend Weston school before it closed. Why the misinformation? They weren't thrown out,but are in a county program that none on the parents have publically said doesn't provide a good education to their children. Your statements about taking from a community that has little money left also applies to Otsego, programs are being mandated by the state,it is taking money away from the schools and not replacing it and Otsego hasn't had any new funds in over a decade and costs are going up. The explaination for the central campus was Otsego was doing it to save money. Can you prove it hasn't or wont? Do you want them to spend more money than they take it?
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Nicole Jackson 2010-02-01 08:54:18 What I don't want is the New Board going against what has been voted down with the Old Board, as someone mentioned in the other blog concerning the halt of the new construction,for all the reasons I mentioned. Great, I am so pleased the kids going to Northwood are getting good education, but that was not the point. The point was that they do have to go to Northwood, and yes, at least 1 of those children were in fact from Weston. My resources are good, thankyou very much. I also have said I am not going to sit here, and pretend to know alot about these things, I only know what the concerns of the community are, that want change, and don't know how to proceed. At least I am trying. It is definately a good cause, for all the right reasons.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Nicole Jackson 2010-02-01 08:57:04 maybe change wasn't the right word, they want it how it was.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Nicole Jackson 2010-02-01 09:09:10 I am just a mother, tax- payer, and voter with a purpose to help a quiet community with no money, that doesn't want to create more debt- to, as someone said- save money? You can't put those 2 phrases in a sentence together, it doesn't make sense, unless you just want what you want, and don't care who get's stepped on. The poorest of the poor in our own community can't give anymore. If they are forced to give, where are they going to go when making it with what they have isn't good enough anymore? It won't be to Otsego, therefore the school district would lose more money.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order ohsgrad 2010-02-01 09:16:26 Mrs. Jackson you claim your information is good yet you can't answer basic questions. Did the closing of Weston result in a cost savings to the Otsego district? You claim you only want them to spend what they have,do they have the money to pay for reopening Weston and funding three schools? Again one of the students lived in Weston,did he attend school there last year or was he in a county program somewhere else? How is the district going to pay the penalities for not building the new building? You claim the district needs to stay out of your pocket so we know it wont come from you. Where is it to come from? How are the taxpayers going to pay for what you WANT? Seems you don't have a problem getting something you WANT and cant AFFORD and putting off paying for it. Before Weston was closed kids had to travel all over the county to partcipate in special education classes. You WANT them to stay in the district,what are the costs involved? If what you WANT costs to much and requires you to pay more,then are you willing to do what you say and go without?
To the Editor: While aiding Haiti, many turn backs on 'homemade disaster' Bunker 2010-02-01 09:18:39 Susanna, the difference between the two (ObamaCare and Haiti) is that people are voluntarily giving their money to Haiti. The Health Care Reform will FORCE you to pay, like it or not. Using the $10 amount is classic liberal propaganda. So far, less than 30 million has been donated to Haiti by texting the Red Cross. That's only 3 million texts ($30mil/3mil=$10), or 1/10th of our population. Barack said that we spend $7600 PER CITIZEN for health care, and he said that it is half that in socialized medicine countries. The amount you would be FORCED to pay, or jailed, would be about $3800 per person. A realistic comparison would be that you would need to text for Haiti $10 PER DAY, PER PERSON IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD, and you will be forced to do it for the rest of your life. A far cry from your unrealistic example of a one time, $10 donation. Tragedy brings out the ghouls to push for marxism.
To the Editor: Natural Gas Act good for Ohio, nation Bunker 2010-02-01 09:39:19 Brutus, apparently your beret and blue dress are still on too tight from Bill Clinton's visit to Perrysburg! If you were paying attention to your messiah Osama's State of the Union Address, you would have heard HIM say that we need to develop more domestic oil. It's great when you libs get kicked in the teeth by your own side! The info I got on Boone Pickens and owning the transmission lines, plus the swift boating of John "D Student" Kerry, were taken from the HUFFINGTON POST!! So where are the lack of facts? It must be that the auto industry are going to re-tool and develop cars that run on CNG (compressed natural gas) for free, and won't cost a thing, right? You are a flaming colossus of stupidity, brutus. I provide facts that are easily checked, and you don't check! You call facts lies, then bring nothing to the party. LOSER!
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Nicole Jackson 2010-02-01 09:48:13 All I know, is before all the changes were made it was easier to afford the cost of living, and there wasn't so many unsatisfied people, and that's who we are- WE ARE THE PEOPLE!) As fare as getting what I want with nothing, and not paying back debts- I admitted to making mistakes as a tax-payer/consumer- which I am paying for for the next 7 years. I have outstanding school loans. When Weston was open, it was easier to budget for them. I have had to file for economic hardship 3 times. My personal finances, as well as the people whom I am speaking for, are no-one's business- I do what I can with what I have, when I have it. I don't live in a $400,00 dollar home like in Harley Woods. Wood County is not a community like Perrysburg, and we need to stop trying to make it that way right now, because the PEOPLE have had enough. There is alot of unexpected expenses, 2 months ago my husband and I had to get equipment, and dig up the front yard to replace a broken water line- we are still recovering. My car went to the junk yard, it had to be relaced. After all the energy I have put forth in my trials, and tribulations, I came into a little bit of money and bought myself a Harley, why- I deserved it. I am sorry I am unable to answer your questions with the specific anwsers you are looking for, but I am apparently not as smart as you, and I am okay with that, because I am on the level of the PEOPLE!!!
Walbridge woman gets 7 years for attempted rape Sickened 2010-02-01 09:56:07 Stephanie you sick dirty child molester. I hope you get what you deserve. Jason I am very disappointed in you. I have known you since we were children. If you ever see me in passing dont you dare talk to me. Everyone is disgusted with your actions and behavior! Hopefully your (not long enough) sentences help you to reflect what dispicable people you are.
Otsego senior aces Americanism test GARY GERWIN 2010-02-01 12:22:18 Tyler Carson for President!or at least congress man...
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Who are you talking about? 2010-02-01 12:36:37 Gargie I am wondering who you are talking about when you refer to the "captain of the ship." You said it is "Mr. Garman." Would that be Douglas Garman, the former superintendant of Wood County Schools? Or maybe you just misspelled it and you are referring to Garmann/Miller Associates, who are the architects for the building projects. If spelling is not one of your strengths, you also may be referring to Daren Garmenn, the former Otsego board member. Oh wait, are you talking about Otsego superintendant Jim GARBER? If that's the case, maybe you should just keep your uninformed comments to yourself so you don't spread anymore more misinformation. If it's one of the others please explain how they are "captain of the ship." Thank you.
Vermont woman killed trying to rescue cat on highway downthePike 2010-02-01 12:58:30 I just wish to convey my condolences to Cynthia Long's family. It sounds like she was a very caring and compassionate woman. I am sort of surprised that she wasn't seen and the horrible tragedy avoided.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Otsego South 2010-02-01 13:49:19 Ms. Jackson, Is it possible that the economic down-turn you are experiencing had nothing to do with the closing of Weston Elem.? Perhaps it is just coincidental timing. With national reports showing a slow eoonomy everywhere, I doubt they're all blaming the trouble on Weston, Ohio. No one was asking about your PERSONAL finances. ohsgrad seemed to be asking if you are willing to pay for what YOU want as far as the schools are concerned; ie. reopening Weston, providing our own special needs program, etc. These things will cost money, too and that money will need to come from the taxpayers.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Nicole Jackson 2010-02-01 14:26:22 I would rather pay for those things in our community, than a central school because of how it has disrupted one small town, and their ability to adapt to ALL the changes required for this project. I believe I am speaking for more than myself considering how well TL Otsego said she was satisfied, her children, and grandchildren were satisfied- paying for, and maintaining what they had, with what they, when they have it. I hope this helps make understanding where we're coming from a little easier.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Otsego South 2010-02-01 16:04:04 So, just to clarify Ms. Jackson, you do have money to pay additional taxes as long as it goes toward exactly what you want. Correct?
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Nicole Jackson 2010-02-01 17:34:28 How selfish do you think I am? As long as it goes toward exactly what the PEOPLE want, not just myself, as I am sure it will be gone over more February 25th, at the meeting in Haskin's.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Nicole Jackson 2010-02-01 18:00:05 Please do not forget the others that voiced opinions at the meeting, and in these blogs supporting things I have written. I am just a messenger with opinions that supports things for my own reasons. Everyone that posts, or shows up at meetings, have very personal, and private reasons for feeling the way they do, and just because we don't have as much education, or yearly income, does not mean our opinions and experiences should go unrecognized, or ignored. I may not live in Weston anymore, but my reasons for leaving were extremely personal, because Mr. Garber, among others ignored issues that needed to be resolved a long time ago. Like we the people were not important. Proof of these experiences is hard to come by because issues within families arise without warning. I know I am not going to go out and buy something to hook to my phone line to record conversations, but if there is any kind of honesty, or decency left in certain individuals, they could not in good conscience keep ignoring what the people are saying, or just blowing them off all together, or trying to make them look and feel as uneducated as they may be.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Otsego South 2010-02-01 18:03:25 I am one of the PEOPLE too! And my "wants" are different than yours. That is the point that you seem to be missing.
Otsego senior aces Americanism test Gargie 2010-02-01 18:43:37 Well done Tyler! Congrats on the savings bond.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Otsego West 2010-02-01 19:30:50 Otsego South-- I don't think Ms. Jackson is missing any points. She is giving her opinion. Her "wants" (your words) are what the Majority voted for. And she should care were her tax dollars are going. That's why we vote on school issues.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Otsego South 2010-02-01 19:47:12 OK. I quit. I think y'all must've eaten paint chips when you were kids. You seem incapable of discussing anything honestly or intelligently.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Otsego South 2010-02-01 19:53:48 ...and that's just my opinion.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Nicole Jackson 2010-02-01 20:25:24 Paint chips? Haha, I never really thought about it before, but that's quite possible- my parents owned several properties during my childhood in Fostoria, Ohio. That however has not affected my ability to communicate with my written word, it's my verbal communication skills that need work. So that's why I thought it best to start here. Yes, any tax-payer/voter should care, and I think I had some very valid points along the way.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order patriot 2010-02-02 00:29:48 The taxpayers will have to vote on operating funds whether it's for a new school or 3 inefficient old ones. The narrow-minded are going to have trouble differentiating between operating funds and building funds. The LOUD opposition will get louder with their non-truths. The state money is a great opportunity for the Otsego school district to move forward.
Gardner backs repeal of license late fine receive69 2010-02-02 04:34:46 Robinson: You are correct, we are in the middle of an economic Crisis, which is even more of a reason to repeal this silly law! DMV is sucking people dry on their fees! A 30 day tag which just a few years ago cost $3.50, is now $18.00! Drivers licenses which were $10.50 are now twice that. Your right, we are in an economic crisis and more taxes and penalties is not a part of the road to recovery.
'Give me a conflict' Cheerleading admission fee at fair divides board holmz 2010-02-02 06:45:55 Hey...why not put up tall walls around each carnival ride, then charge the parents to come through to watch their little ones take a spin on the tilt-a-whirl?? That might work just as well.
Quiz bowl 1-30 Fritz Wolfram 2010-02-02 06:56:46 I believe you have the story backwards. Otsego defeated Hilfiker 102-50.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Nicole Jackson 2010-02-02 07:59:45 The "narrow minded" are the ones that voted it dd the first time, it's the "narrow minded" that would vote it down again. Why the insults? I can communicate without putting people down, disagreement is not a good excuse for that, there is no excuse good enough for that. It's people like us that even make it possible for people with higher education, and big incomes to live the way they do, which is why when the people voted, they should have had enogh respect to honor what the COMMUNITY wanted, and still wants, FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED IN PAST POSTS. MAYBE THE "NARROW MINDED" are the one's that decided to go against the voter's wishes just because there's some money that they don't know when, & if is going to come around again, so they said to hell with what the people voted for. Keep it clean, and leave your insults in the privacy of your own home!
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Nicole Jackson 2010-02-02 08:04:03 There are mis-spellings today, my keyboard is missing the letter D, and I have to use a pen to use it. I can't just go out, and buy another.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Nicole Jackson 2010-02-02 08:12:41 I am not the one trying to make it through school with a label that screams- maybe I should be medicated because I don't conform! If anything, I should be medicated so I don't upset anyone else's day, maybe? I don't think so, I've been that route as well.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Nicole Jackson 2010-02-02 08:21:35
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Nicole Jackson 2010-02-02 08:23:12 If you don't get that- it's Pink Floyd- Another Brick In The Wall
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order what the ...? 2010-02-02 08:33:13 Ms. Jackson, last time I checked Perrysburg was in Wood County. Instead of junking your car, why didn't you pay to fix it up, which is what a lot of people are advocating we do with these old schools.I think if I came into a little bit of money, I could find better uses for it then buying a Harley. You tell of the bad things that have happened to you yet go out and buy a Harley? Kind of makes it hard to understand where you're really coming from. I'm sure the people in Milwaukee appreciate your business though. Maybe you should have bought a new keyboard instead as I'm sure at this time of the year you'd get more use out of it than a motorcycle.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order just watching and listening 2010-02-02 08:34:34 I was just observing this, but had to throw in a comment. How about "United we stand, divided we fall"? Once the state takes over, it won't matter what your opinion is. They'll tell you what to do and when to do it.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order what the...? 2010-02-02 08:40:10 Maybe you could have shown a little fiscal responsibility and started by paying on your student loans? Bad debts have helped put this country in the position that it is now.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Hahahahahaha 2010-02-02 08:43:37 Ms. Jackson - There is no need for anyone else to put you down, you do a fine job of it all by yourself. You have admitted to being narrow minded and undereducated. Why so sad, girl? You have a Harley. Go take a ride.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Nicole Jackson 2010-02-02 08:45:52 So, you want to get in more of my business, okay, my car had over 200,000 miles on it, something different failing every other week which can be backed up by one of my last employers. The last straw was when my car would not go all the way into park, so my key was unattreivable, leaving it susceptible to getting stolen. The sensors were all going bad, on a car I couldn't afford to replace them, and Andy Hallek, told me he couldn't evewn trade the car because it was junk!!! Perrysburg is in Wood County, however Weston, Grand Rapids, Haskin's, and Tontogany has a lower cost of living, why? Becuase we are farming community! I believe we are so divided because of the leadership Mr. Garber has provided to lower income, less educated individuals. It's not good to turn your back, and tell the people that vote our points are insignificant, or not understood.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Hahahahahaha 2010-02-02 08:51:25 This girl can sure dig a deep hole, can't she? I was going to offer her the use of my shovel, but she doesn't seem to need one.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Nicole Jackson 2010-02-02 08:54:45 I would love to start paying back my student loans, nothing would please me more. I had an interview last week, however I was told the hiring process takes a long time, I need to be patient. Bills for living first, unexpected expenses first, transportation first. I have priorties to make sure my family has a roof over their head, clothes on their backs, and food on their table. My arrangements with school loans are not your concern, when I have to be patient to get hired. As far as my last job, my transportation issues, and the amount of driving I had to do with this employer, were not conducive to maintaining the position on the amount of income it actually brought in after I fixed my car. Families have to make decisions like this all the time- especially when you don't have all the nice things you want.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Nicole Jackson 2010-02-02 09:06:26 Not sad, making due withwhat I have, like many other's. I look foward to the day things get better for everbody- sorry that's not soon enough for you, and it intefer's with your ideas. I said plenty of mistakes have been made by me, but at least I can still get out of bed in the morning, and be proud of who I am, and what I am trying to accomplish, not only for myself, but for all the other voter's that voted it down in the first place. As far as taking a ride, yes, soon enough- as soon as I have had enough of your abuse- and that's not today. You can't bring someone down that starts at the bottom. I said the narrow minded are the one's that force their way on the rest of us who voted NO!!!Not those exact words, but that is what I meant. I find it refreshing to not be on the top, why? Because I wouldn't be able to get a good nights rest ignoring the voters.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order what the ...? 2010-02-02 09:09:11 So the solution is when you get some money, go buy a Harley? unbelievable!!!Your car sounds alot like our two old elementary buildings but yet people want to dump a bunch of money into them. Now tell me, does that make sense?
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order just wondering 2010-02-02 09:38:42 Hmmm?!?!? Our elementary schools have had over 200,000 footsteps marching through them over the years. Something falls apart every other week. Windows and doors had to be replaced to keep break-ins at bay. Wiring was bad. They'll need to be torn down because, they're junk and can't be sold. Sound familiar?
Portage puts tax on ballot Tom Butters 2010-02-02 10:33:46 It's time to turn off the lights in Portage. That town was doomed when Dick Gill was the Mayor. Now Mark Wolford, and his wife, run the town. Incompetence can't make a town prosper.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Nicole Jackson 2010-02-02 12:30:27 Have you ever bought a graduation present? I never bought a brand new anything in my entire life, but clothes. I have no payments, or debt besides school loans- which guess what- I just filed taxes- that's one of the first things 2 address. THE VOTERS SAID NO!!! Stop judging me as a way to get me to shut up- WON'T WORK- I'm with the voters!!! I was under the impression there was only 1 being that had the power to be perfect, & not judge, I didn't think that being was you. See you on the 25th at the meeting, I'm sure. Judge me when there is a room full of non- perfect people!!
Three California children mauled by pack of escaped dogs melly 2010-02-02 17:20:32 I hope the dog's owner does JAIL TIME !!!!!!
Portage puts tax on ballot Ben S. Shaw 2010-02-02 17:49:41 Portage was having there nails pounded in to the coffin when Gill and Drake ran the village. Those are 2 financial genius'. I believe the drakes were foreclosed on, Gill ok'ed 40 hours a week for a village chief and now you have Wolford who wants another tax, but won't pay his taxes. I say put the last nail into the village's coffin and see if the townships can resurrect them from the dead.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Gargie 2010-02-02 19:04:33 Thanks for the advice "who are you talking about" but I think I'll keep giving my Opinion whenever I'm allowed. Seems even you were able to figure out who I was talking about. I've got a lot more things to say that need said, stick around. Feel free to offer any advice of your own on how best to keep the district from imploding. If ya pay attention enough, my comments and idea's are rare, you should be able to find me sooner or later. It's a small area.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order listening 2010-02-03 02:15:05 Lord, Make me a channel of your peace. Where there is hatred let me bring your love. Where there is injury your pardon Lord, and where there's doubt, true faith in you. Oh Master grant that I may never seek, so much to be consoled as to console, to be understood as to understand, to be loved as to love with all my soul. Is there any way to heal Otsego? It won't happen unless we learn to listen to 'the other side', no matter what that other side is. How did we get here? (Use 'I' and 'we' statements here, not 'they' or 'he'.) And pray for our current board, old and new members. They will need it in the days and months ahead.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order ohsgrad 2010-02-03 08:13:29 Gargie, why dont you answer and state who you were talking abouting? There were several options open to you. I'm not sure what is so rare about your comments? My idea from keeping Otsego from imploding is simple. Provide facts to go with figures,proof for accusations and listen to what others have to say. I don't think judging people based upon where they live,education or employment status is necessary. Take the time and effort to be informed about school funding and make your decisions based upon facts. If want the district to do something then state how you are going to pay for it and how much it will costs the taxpayer.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Nicole Jackson 2010-02-03 11:11:49 I am positive WE all care about Our community, Our votes, and Our concerns- 3 things which are undefined by dollars, and cents at least on a lower level of power & understanding. In my opinion dollars, and cents are distraction tactics, trying to shift focus off what was voted down, and the possibility of new leadership for making a decision over what the people voted for. In my opinion I feel it's a way to try to talk us into something WE don't think is right at this particular time, especially because of the changes to a small town, and what it has meant to their families. When is not the question. Now is what we have to deal with. Now, the people don't want to be ignored concerning their majority vote. They want Weston re-opened, fixed up, and new leadership. Not everyone has the time, or ability to research school funding, and crunch the numbers. In my opinion, numbers were not on the minds of the voters at the polls. Community & Family were. Everyone needs to be taken into consideration for a happy community. I have said my peace, Have a wonderfully blessed day.
To the Editor: BG man: 'Country has gone mad' Bunker 2010-02-03 11:12:18 Well said, John Randall. Now, for a response from the criminally insane libs, I present brutus the uniformed.....
Portage puts tax on ballot concernedcitizen 2010-02-03 11:29:52 to bad you can not come out with your real name ben s shaw. because you don't know shit when it comes to the drakes or the gills or even the mayor. who ever feeds you your info is so wrong. sheperd is the one who ran the town into the ground. remember when he was mayor we almost went broke before we got him out of here. then they turn around and vote him in with a whole 43 votes to handle the money STUPID People!!!! the drakes were not foreclosed on they got so old that they could not manage thier finances. i hope i can live as they have even though people like you cotinue to disrespect them. as for mayor gill he came in and tryed to clean up a mess left by "mayor sheperd" i use that loosely. and if people would worry about their business instead of everybody elses and try to come up with some ideas to help the town maybe we could come up with ideas to help but then there are people like you who bash and dont know what the hell you are talking about.
To the Editor: Returning $17M to state not wise management no money 2010-02-03 12:10:32 You can't return something you have not yet received. Waiting to move forward with construction when you can afford it and also do a project that is what the majority want is the wise move. This board will probably have to go forward with the construction with all the penalties that the last board saddled us with. A levy is not realistic to pass after not listening to the voter let the cuts begin. Jim and Barb can you give your million dollar list of cuts you recommend to help pay for the additional cost of the new building and projected future million dollar shortfall in the general fund to pay staff and the electric bill
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order As I see it 2010-02-03 12:32:07 Your point, Nicole, about everyone not having the time or ability to research funding is a valid one. And it is EXACTLY why the school board must not automatically go along with the voter results. Should they take those results into consideration? Definitely, but their job is to do the researching and to sort out the facts.
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order ohsgrad 2010-02-03 12:45:20 Not giving dollar amounts is part of the majority plan? You want Weston reopened and fixed up and yet hwve no idea the amounted needed to do it and claim it isnt important. I noticed you said Weston fixed up,so you arent interested in fixing up the other two schools. The majority of voters are going to have to agree to fund what you want. They school board has to put an amount on ballot. They can't just say vote yes and we'll tell you how much later. How is that being upfront and honest with the taxpayers? What will the amount be? You owe the voters a number so they can't make an informed choice. You can't get around that an acutally dollar amount is attached to what you want. Stop slinging mud and start crunching numbers.
To the Editor: Returning $17M to state not wise management jminard 2010-02-03 12:49:09 I hate to say this but past School Board members and the treasure should all be held financially responsible for knowing pushing this forward when they had expert counsel from Tom Zulch and other who has experience in the field of energy cost analysis and obtaining utility records that prove cost will go up. Much higher than what we could afford and beyond the cost of what we would spend for utility bills and maintaining the 3 elementary schools. Instead, they chose to push their own agenda of a centralized campus so that they can put a feather in their cap. Sorry to say but that feather is a turkey feather and not one of more respected bird.
Portage puts tax on ballot Tom Butters 2010-02-03 13:19:55 How can "Concerned Citizen" talk about using a real name? Gill had plenty of time to fix a town going down the tubes! Considering he didn't take time to comb his hair it isn't a shock he didn't fix anything, lazy people accomplish nothing! By the way the name for people who can't manage their finances is called "foreclosure."
To the Editor: Returning $17M to state not wise management ohsgrad 2010-02-03 13:48:40 When did Mr.Zulch present this expert cost analysis to the board? Where is the written expert costs analysis report he submitted? How can the public have access to that document? How much was he paid for his expert analysis or did he donate his time? Did he do an expert cost analysis of paying the energy costs for all three elementary schools and compare them over time? I heard his expert opinion at a board meeting. He admitted that one of the factors in the rise of energy costs for the new high school was directly related to the costs or energy such as natural gas going up and that air conditioning and other electrical equipment didn't exists in the old jr high or high school so the district is paying for more electric and gas. Can someone tell will there not be a million dollar budget shortfall if Weston is reopened and the district will have to fund 3 schools. I am interested in the expert cost analysis and where it can be obtained. Is it a matter of public record? Why would such an expert not run for the school board and put his expert energy skills to use for all of us? BTW what qualifies him as an expert in energy costs analysis and who else has be worked for? What is his resume that the board didn't listen?
Owens hikes tuition Student 2010-02-03 14:18:18 I will be transfering schools now...dont make us pay for your mistakes with the nursing program.
To the Editor: Returning $17M to state not wise management No money 2010-02-03 15:01:44 OH Grad Mr. Zulch shared the information with the board last year. Mr. Garber had him work with the past bills and energy use figures to compile his information. He use to work for a company doing energy audits to try to find ways to save money. He provided services for many company's including many school districts. I will talk to him to see if he has time to show you the difference in cost
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order ohsgrad 2010-02-03 15:05:32 I meant can make aninformed choice. When funding to operate 3 schools was on the ballot the majority said no. Board members and not any levy was on the ballot in November. It could also be the majority didn't want to see the 2 schools closed and there was no Weston reopened measure on the ballot. The majority vote might not have been happy with what the old board did and replaced them. The new board members weren't given a blank check to do what they want and in fact residents of Weston called out the loudest to slow down and do nothing and NOT ask for any additional money.
To the Editor: Hospital urged to accept military health insurance Sad 2010-02-03 15:17:42 That is crazy. All hospitals should accept military health insurance. I for one will use reconsider where my loyalties are when chosing a hospital.
To the Editor: BG man: 'Country has gone mad' Tired 2010-02-03 15:28:28 Are you kidding me...."I know he isn't one of us"....if you mean delusional you are correct Mr. Randall...and Bunker we already know you're a racist so I wasn't surprised at all to see you are the first one to respond.
To the Editor: We haven't learned from our mistakes BGVOTER 2010-02-03 15:46:09 What are you talking about? First off you do realize that Haiti is another country don't you? So WE don't really have any control in what happens after supplies go there, secondly where is the Rove, Cheney commanding Obama what to do nonsense coming from? You make no sense and we are all now dumber for having read it. I grant you no points and my god have mercy on your soul.
Portage puts tax on ballot kdibling 2010-02-03 16:08:25 well you got my real name, how about you and your buddy. you type of people who view the way the outside of a person will go nowhere in life but worrying about other people. so people are lazy physically but can do alot with their minds. again looking on the outside not inside. if you live to 85 and 86 and can still control most of your senses you should thank God and once again they were not foreclosed on check your informat..
Police: Woman hid triplet pregnancy, died in birth cynthia 2010-02-03 16:26:13 They had two other children together? Why weren't they married? Ridiculous!
To the Editor: Otsego bus drivers are praised Gargie 2010-02-03 17:16:00 Good to hear Russ! I like to hear it. With responsibility comes making things right though, wouldn't you agree? Talked to a local business man the other day who told me of a problem that occured between him and a customer. The customer asked if he'd help in the matter. His response was swift and to the point, I will, not we will make it right. He said what is true, it's a small town and people will know if I'm good or bad. This issue with the driver/kid should've been taken care of just as fast, it's good business. Your need to stick up for them should've never been necessary. The ships been run aground and now a lot of explaining needs done. I've sailed for good and bad captains. The good never let that happen, the bad, one of the ships I was on ran a ground eleven times hit 2 bridges and finally backed up into the dock to end the year. Your ships a ground and there's a lot of finger pointing while the captain is letting women fight for him in the papers. :) Weston gets a bad rap and every time I think of that I wonder why, if that was true, why I know so many good people who live there. God bless Russ, thanks for looking out for the kids when you did.
To the Editor: Otsego bus drivers are praised is it just me? 2010-02-03 17:36:36 Huh?
To the Editor: We haven't learned from our mistakes gargie 2010-02-03 17:40:35 Give the guy his right to speak his mind bgvoter. It's a short piece of it and really takes nothing as far as brain power to understand. We don't have control over there? In what way can't we persuade the destroyed Haitian government what's best? It could be done and Gary has a point and I mean that literally. When disaster hit here in 1906 during the SF earth quake at bayonet point those who provided aid did their business, no taking advantage of the distressed allowed. He has a very valid point. He doesn't think government is doing a good job and tired of people giving power to the same trouble makers. He's tired of hearing about people who need help not getting it. Pretty simple. I hear ya Gary. Someday maybe.
To the Editor: Doctor faults some healthy heart tips Gargie 2010-02-03 17:53:37 Thanks Doc! Kind of all greek to me though. :) Rely on crf, got it.:)
Mendoza sentenced to 39 years Big Bubba 2010-02-03 18:16:44 He's NOT coming home!
To the Editor: Otsego bus drivers are praised Not at all 2010-02-03 18:26:53 is it just me? No it's not! What is Gargie talking about?
Portage puts tax on ballot tired 2010-02-03 19:49:51 Wow! Real name or fake name who cares!! How sad that the village "officials" don't even want to volunteer to promote something they just voted to put on the ballot. I would have trouble promoting something like another income tax also when I know the leader doesn't even bother to pay his own! What an embarrassment!!! Based on the article it sounds like at least we have one official that is honest, "Schmitz, who is 59 and retired from Jeep, said he's a reluctant member of council and only applied because no one else did." That is about the funniest thing I have ever seen and I appreciate his honesty and willingness to hop on the sinking ship!! Can't wait until the township comes in and shows you all how things should be done!!
To the Editor: Calling for Garber's resignation at board meeting was out of order Nicole Jackson 2010-02-03 19:57:19 I wish I could crunch numbers, it would make my life alot easier. I am not the only one that has posted in support of Garbers resignation, and to halt the project. In my opinion it is only mud slinging because it doesn't go along with the plans envisioned since the 1970's. Support is not mud slinging. Mud slinging is telling someone they ate paint chips as a child, or go for a ride, or telling someone how to run their business- it's the pot calling the kettle black. I am glad I treat people the way I want to be treated, goes alot further, especially when you have family, home, community, and school pride. Food For Thought: Sure way to not get votes in the future is to mud sling at the voters when they raise opinions, concerns, or needs that differ from the people not supportive of Garber's resignation, or halting the project. Right, the votes may not count anyway if the numbers fall into place. Why vote then?
To the Editor: Returning $17M to state not wise management patriot 2010-02-03 19:58:04 jminard & no money, did you read the Vollmars' letter?!
Mendoza sentenced to 39 years mcclure native 2010-02-03 20:07:24 Neither are they
To the Editor: We haven't learned from our mistakes brutus 2010-02-03 20:10:09 Obama has been in for 1 year. What did you expect him to do wave a magic wand and make everything all better? Grow up. I've read the healthcare bills Gary, why haven't you. Turn off Faux "news" and learn for yourself.
To the Editor: BG man: 'Country has gone mad' brutus 2010-02-03 20:18:42 Thank God President Obama isn't one of you. And if the rich need help moving their families to another country count me in. And by the way, there are no more mandates and taxes than there were under Bush or Reagan, so what's the problem?
To the Editor: Otsego bus drivers are praised otsego west 2010-02-03 21:08:03 Russ You are right. My kids ride bus 1 she is a great driver. I never worry about them when I know they are with her. I think the Busdrivers never get enough credit for the tough job they do. THANK YOU Mrs. Vasher for all you do!
Mendoza sentenced to 39 years Haskins Resident 2010-02-03 21:11:08 He got exactly what he deserved.
To the Editor: Returning $17M to state not wise management togany 1 2010-02-03 21:23:16 Patriot- The Vollmar's want their name to mean something at the school. So their grankids make everything they tryout for. Like the who's who swing choir. No singing needed just a name.
To the Editor: Public urged to help group that rescued starving horses try kindness 2010-02-03 21:28:58 The humane society ought to try some kindness to the human race before the animal one. This woman had a long background with horses,and is well known,she was either sick or had not enough money to buy feed, the society ought to have had enough respect or compassion to help this lady rather than turn the thing into a media circus--course the society has a long background of turning things into a media circus for themselves.
To the Editor: Otsego bus drivers are praised OHS92 2010-02-03 21:30:10 How true about the busdrivers! when I was in school. The teachers were never nice to me. I was a nobody but my busdriver Mrs. Kendall always treated me like I was just as important as everyone else, she would always talk to me.
To the Editor: Returning $17M to state not wise management just stop 2010-02-03 22:52:02 togany 1 - Are you kidding me? Can't you think of anything intelligent to say in response to the article? You resort to insulting kids? You're pathetic.
To the Editor: Returning $17M to state not wise management tom Z 2010-02-03 22:58:38 Os grad--here are some numbers you can mull over--taken directly from the records of Otsego Schools. --at no cost to the taxpayer except one--me I had to pay to get the bills copied. The five year average electric cost at the Otsego complex prior to start up of the new building was 29,068.90. The ten year average gas cost was 39,059.50 dollars for a total per year average of 68,128.40 for gas and electric use. The new complex from 6-01-08 to4-30-09--only 11 months --shows an electric usage cost of 89,905.72. The gas cost average for the 26 months of operation from January 1 0f 07 through February 28 of 2009 is 10,377.25 per month or 124,527.00 per year. Subtracting the correct yearly numbers leaves us with an increase of 146,304,32 plus the final electric bill for May of 2009. Add in additional custodial costs, a new building supervisor position, increased insurance costs and you have over one mill (approximately 210,000 of additional new cost per year.) ( the water bill increased, but not by enough to cause concern, except for the sewage cost added to grass watering useage.)Elementary school numbers. I can tell you that the Weston building is the least costly to operate based on total square footage numbers and I can tell you the OSFC rated it just as efficient from a useful standpoint as the Grand Rapids building and the Weston building has 8000 square foot more than either of the other two. Wanna ask me which one should have been closed? (Haskins)School year 2008-09 the total gas and electric for the three elementary buildings:GR 32,958.78 Weston 38,042,55 Haskins 43,005.48 or a total of 114,006.81. the end result : if a new building is added and the very energy efficient old high school is remoldeled we could end up with additional energy and operating cost of 450 -500 thousand dollars ,add in the 300,000 payment on the new building and you are looking at over 800,000 of unvoted operating cost--what do you want to cut to get the funds? As far as qualifications you might like to know that I worked with another Otsego grad Ken Stinehart who owned a company called Energy Pro-Formance we did school 264 energy programs for a number of school districts here in NW Ohio. Our numbers and work scope had to be qualified by the Ohio State Office of Energy Efficiency and then later by the OSFC. Our first project was Otsego Schools way back in the early 90's. You could find it in the school records ,if you so choose. We had a good ten years and were put out of business by the state building new buildings--schools just waited for the new buildings rather than fix up the old. You should also be aware that most of the funds a school district spends are spent on school staff, I think at Otsego it is around 78 percent of the gross income. So the largest savings can come from that if necessary--all I do with the energy cost is point out the increase in total cost and that must come from someplace--you can make the point that the closing of the Weston building is the result of the increased cost of operation of the high school --not to different from a classic case of schoolyard bullying ,if you ask me. Oh, and your talking to a guy who was part of the incoming freshman class of the beginning Otsego High school in 1959 so you can't get any more grey hair than I have or any more memories of the buildings or struggles to operate the thing, so maybe you should sharpen your pencil and figure out how to run the place with no money --cause your real close to that, my friend!
To the Editor: G. Rapids resident doubts any tax increase levy would pass in Otsego Really 2010-02-03 23:34:54 I agree with Julie. I doubt any levy would pass for the simple reason that people just don't have any money. And finally someone who admits that when Board Members like former Board Member Lisa Hatfield referred to public members using name-calling, scare tacics (we'll close your schools if you vote no) does nothing to sway others to their point of view. Maybe the motto should be "Otsego-Remember When That Was a School District."
Mendoza sentenced to 39 years Lesa 2010-02-03 23:54:06 Finally justice served for the victims. Keep him under the prison. "He's not coming back!" On behalf of possible other victims he's possibly menaced may I say "Thank God!"
Police: Woman hid triplet pregnancy, died in birth downthePike 2010-02-04 00:33:14 Have some compassion. Isn't it obvious that the young woman had a mental illness? How sad. How very sad that she died alone giving birth and bled to death. My condolences to her family and children.
To the Editor: Returning $17M to state not wise management My Turn... 2010-02-04 03:48:27 While your impressive figures which may or may not be accurate as far as the utilities are concerned(I have not studied the districts figures myself) , you were very vague on "additional custodial costs". You may want to research/update those numbers further. As for another new school..well..that is not a debate that I wish to be a part of as I see positives and negatives on both sides of that issue. However, my comment is reserved to the other information you included in your statistics regarding the staff costs. Didn't the district recently make sugnificant cuts to the custodial/maintainance staff and dramatically increase new employee contribution to the insurance plan? What is the cost of stripping/refinishing floors and cleaning carpet in a new building on a yearly basis? Did the old buildings recieve proper maintainance on their tile, carpet and terrazo which extends the life of the floors thus reducing replacement/repair cost? The new high school does annually! How much money was saved by discontinuing the outsourced cleaning services? I believe that figure to be around $100,000 by itself! How much money has the district saved by using custodial staff to transfer classrooms from one classroom or building to the next without hiring a material handeling/inventory company each summer? How many custodians do similar districts employ per sq. ft.? How many extra events are held in the new high school? Sorry if it shows but many people have forgotten to realize the custodial/maintanance department took one of the largest hits to their budget the last round and is now operating with nothing more than a skeleton crew. On average each custodian is responsible for 20+ classrooms in addition to restrooms, cafeterias, offices, libraries, locker rooms, gym, auditorium, meeting rooms, computer labs, halls etc. Please do not encourage any further cuts to the department b/c the crews grey hair figure is quickly catching up to yours and their bare bones have become quite fragile. =) Have a good day!
To the Editor: Returning $17M to state not wise management so long otsego 2010-02-04 04:12:07 Mr. Zulch an expert? He's been caught lying or at least making up 'facts' at more than one Otsego meeting I've been to over the years, and I've only been to a handful or so. It sounds more like boo-hoo, OSFC took my job, how can I make them look bad, even if it's at the expense of kids. One thing I'm unclear about is whether the energy costs at the new high school include the costs of running the old high school/new jr. hi. Does anyone know that?
Mendoza sentenced to 39 years receive69 2010-02-04 04:21:03 1 year, then "Hug a Thug" (SEARCH) program. This is the prediction!
To the Editor: G. Rapids resident doubts any tax increase levy would pass in Otsego no money 2010-02-04 07:22:52 Many people at the board meeting are saying we need to wait with a projected million dollar shortfall in a couple of years. it seem everyone in support of this wants to move forward with new more expensive buildings without excepting the fact that large levy's are needed to support it. The big fear people are the ones saying we need to spend the money now before the state is broke Eastwood decided to wait and listen to what the voters have told them. why don't they do a emergency unfunded lease
To the Editor: Returning $17M to state not wise management really 2010-02-04 07:38:38 Long Otsego Really? can you get the past fuel bills and show us what is not fact? I have a letter from the last school board that they would work with the taxpayers to keep the elementary buildings in the villages if we support a New High School project
To the Editor: Returning $17M to state not wise management Tom Z 2010-02-04 08:22:52 My Turn you are doing well with the building service folks. One thing to remember the cuts in those area's will show up eventually in poorer building service,although I think the old service company was put in originally because they could be hired for less than the cost to the district to maintain its own staff,that may have changed and Garber is simply running on borrowed time with the reduced crew and will eventually have to increase the people or hours.You would find across the school world that all buildings are really cleaned and polished in all districts every summer , most staff take great pride in the clean buildings and in some districts the board will take a tour just to see the clean and ready buildings. You might also find that I think new buildings have some good things to offer, like good classroom lighting, better air movement and more even room temperature,however the down side is they are not built nearly as well as the old ones(don't you ever wonder how Europe gets by with its 3-400 year old buildings?) Hey so long--of course the old building is included in the costs, you deduct the cost of the old from the new to get the new figure--in fact I think the new square footage is costing about 6 cents a foot more than the old for gas but haven't done anthing with the electric yet although that cost is greater because of more lighting and air conditioning and also more fan and pump motor cost. I like the so long otsego part--- take a close look at the school boundry maps and I think you can make a good case for putting , Weston, Grand Rapids and McClure together. Haskins can go to Anthony Wayne and Tontogany can go to BG, we can let the lease company have the new building and Tontogany can use it for a service building for the town's large equipment storage and office staff --sound good? IF this doesn't get solved so the taxpayer will support the school then you may be correct as the state comes in and runs this thing --that should be a whole new experience in cutting costs--
To the Editor: Returning $17M to state not wise management Otsego South 2010-02-04 08:46:15 Are you suggesting the board should have imported European builders to complete their project? That probably would've really increased costs. I don't think anyone expected utility costs to be less for the new building in the short-term. That would not be realistic. But over time and by truly comparing "apples to apples" and figuring in the dramatic increase we saw in energy costs.....Also, it is easy to manipulate figures to try and solidify your point of view, especially if you're trying to sell you services.
Mendoza sentenced to 39 years bowling green 2010-02-04 09:11:24 dewitt family, sorry for your loss. Corey, hang in there man you did make bad choices but wat about ppl that do aggrivated murder they get away with it...i dont think its right that you got 39 yrs but hey when you get the chance to do the search program....DO IT! hang in there hun!
Paul Windisch Don Morrison 2010-02-04 09:23:47 My deepest sympathy to the entire Windisch family. I have many fond memories of Paul and the wonderful person that he was. May your memories sustain you during this time of deep personal loss.